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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #980 on: May 14, 2018, 07:06:16 AM »
Happened to 2 of my friends last year
Which is worse to pay with a 3rd party check, Chase or Amex?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #981 on: May 14, 2018, 12:14:57 PM »
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Any contact info? High do I sign up
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #982 on: May 14, 2018, 12:28:11 PM »
Which is worse to pay with a 3rd party check, Chase or Amex?
I don't have a direct answer, but if you also bank at Chase, don't piss where you eat.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #983 on: May 14, 2018, 02:32:47 PM »
To clarify, some here are saying it is an issue to deposit a check at Chase and then pay my Amex bill within a day or two from my Chase account?


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #984 on: May 14, 2018, 02:51:25 PM »
To clarify, some here are saying it is an issue to deposit a check at Chase and then pay my Amex bill within a day or two from my Chase account?
No, what people are reporting as a problem is having the check made out directly to the credit card, not depositing it into their bank.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #985 on: May 14, 2018, 03:01:58 PM »
No, what people are reporting as a problem is having the check made out directly to the credit card, not depositing it into their bank.
Ahhh, but what is the issue in depositing into my bank. I spend $100, I deposit $100..? Does bank care that funds are going in and out quickly?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #986 on: May 14, 2018, 03:10:42 PM »
Ahhh, but what is the issue in depositing into my bank. I spend $100, I deposit $100..? Does bank care that funds are going in and out quickly?
some people have issues because it has to make sense with the income they report

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #987 on: May 15, 2018, 10:44:04 AM »
What is the issue with Chase?  'if I have a check made out to me and  instead of depositing it in my bank I just use it to pay cc in branch, is that an issue?  Or is it a issue if check made out to cash / check I dunno.

What if I have cash, can I pay cc with it or need to deposit it?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #988 on: May 16, 2018, 07:34:28 AM »
What is the issue with Chase?  'if I have a check made out to me and  instead of depositing it in my bank I just use it to pay cc in branch, is that an issue? 
Will they allow this?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #990 on: May 17, 2018, 12:42:10 AM »
So what was getting accounts closed??

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #991 on: May 17, 2018, 01:01:42 AM »
Any contact info? High do I sign up
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I definitely do not recommend them. They will make you go back and price match items if the price is lowered the next week.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #992 on: May 17, 2018, 08:28:54 AM »
I definitely do not recommend them. They will make you go back and price match items if the price is lowered the next week.
Is that clear in the initial agreement / T&C they operate under?

Otherwise that’s not okay, you should be at liberty to choose to do that yourself (and make extra monies thereby), not be forced to do it otherwise you don’t get fully reimbursed for your cost.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #993 on: May 17, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »
I definitely do not recommend them. They will make you go back and price match items if the price is lowered the next week.
Been with them for about a year, never had that. In fact, they have told me about a price change and I have gotten to keep the refund.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #994 on: May 17, 2018, 09:12:27 AM »
Been with them for about a year, never had that. In fact, they have told me about a price change and I have gotten to keep the refund.

They have done that. Have not in a while.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #995 on: May 17, 2018, 09:26:10 AM »
They have done that. Have not in a while.
Wow, how did they clawback the funds

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #996 on: May 17, 2018, 09:30:05 AM »
I definitely do not recommend them. They will make you go back and price match items if the price is lowered the next week.
thats absolutely baloney. i have been with them for a long time and that never happened. if it drops then you get to keep the difference. if anyone wants a link to sign up with them feel free to pm me

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #997 on: May 17, 2018, 10:12:29 AM »
thats absolutely baloney. i have been with them for a long time and that never happened. if it drops then you get to keep the difference. if anyone wants a link to sign up with them feel free to pm me

Except they did

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #998 on: May 17, 2018, 12:27:14 PM »
Except they did
Anyone from USA here to respond?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #999 on: May 17, 2018, 12:53:51 PM »
Except they did
+1, though they might not have done it recently.
I have found their communication to be poor when i have had an issue.