PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others

[davidrotts63]

The deals seem to be unlimited - its as much as people have a credit limit and are willing to cycle- for example, there was a sale for a mac at $985 so I know someone who had a 50k credit limit and ordered 50 and cycled it....you can only get 1 per a customer online though there are 4 colors he just did guest checkout and in 1 hr ordered 50k worth to his house...they hand it to the guy and he gives them a check.

Some deals like iPad at a 499 price match are so worth it for them they are offering upwards of $15 commission per an item.

At end of the day only rule being skirted it seems is a limit in this case though one can say they are ordering on behalf of '1 per a family member' etc.

Best buy gets the money and the cc gets the money....i am trying to find whats wrong here

You are over simplifying getting orders through.

[cholent]

I know people who do that or sometimes multiples of that, monthly.

Really? Very impressive

[mrprez27]

You are over simplifying getting orders through.

I know its difficult or they wouldn't offer it - I'm not trying to say something is fishy because "why don't they just order it themselves" -

let's take an example of an item without a commission to make things simple, they are resellers... it's much easier to get a bunch of people to buy for them vs spending hours getting creative with guest purchases etc.

I'm just trying to figure out is there any other not kosher or illegal dynamic that could get someone in trouble.

It seems the only issue is "household limit"....and not sure if its even a ethical issue to ignore that?

You could say technically once you buy it it's yours to deal with so even if you have in mind to buy as many as you want once you get it you can then 'decide' to resell even though BestBuy does not want that.

Further, most of these groups supply best buy tax id's that are given to the buying group people from best buy after they show bestbuy they are resellers so it seems they if they cared they would shut it down.....they should be able to tie 1,000's of ipad orders to a tax id they gave out.

^^^^^ I do not know Halacha this is just my ramble....am I trying to justify something unethical?

[mrprez27]

Really? Very impressive

think about it - lets say a buying group will take as many macs as u can buy so you have a 100k limit even and u just order as many as possible.

I am sure its doable....question is - is this ethical and any even small factor here illegal?

[SamCan]

If someone moves 100k per year a more, wont it trigger an audit from the irs, being that he is receiveing more than 100k a year from a certain corporation?

[yitrap]

If someone moves 100k per year a more, wont it trigger an audit from the irs, being that he is receiveing more than 100k a year from a certain corporation?

Open a business account. You are a business after all

[mmgfarb]

Really? Very impressive

You're not special

[cholent]

You're not special

[mmgfarb]

Ok, fine, I take it back.

[12HRS]

Really? Very impressive

and he is responding to me so I'm not special either 

[ben89]

There is no way in the world that that guy got 50 MacBook orders through. POIDH

[AJK]

There is no way in the world that that guy got 50 MacBook orders through. POIDH

Pretty sure I did 50+...

[AJK]

If someone moves 100k per year a more, wont it trigger an audit from the irs, being that he is receiveing more than 100k a year from a certain corporation?

If that's the barometer to get audited, then half of DDF would have been audited already...

[yelped]

There is no way in the world that that guy got 50 MacBook orders through. POIDH

I considered myself lucky when I was able to get 5 through. These days I'm lucky if I could get one to go through...

[davidrotts63]

Pretty sure I did 50+...

From Best Buy?

[chinagel]

There is no way in the world that that guy got 50 MacBook orders through. POIDH

werent macbooks on ebay? theyre much easier

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I don't believe this topic was touched upon in the 'swipe for others'.

There are a lot of 'buying groups' where people in the community will pay you back (and sometimes include a small commission) to buy stuff from stores such as BestBuy and in most cases price match.

My understanding is because they are trying to skirt ' limit per a household' and then sell these items overseas or when the sale ends?

This seems to be a great way to do massive churning (I have some coworkers moving a couple 100k and also some itemss have a commission).

Besides for the risk that the person may go under and not pay.

Is this kosher? Anyone familiar?

Thank You

PSA: Be very careful doing this. Most of these are shoestring operations and have no backup capital if something goes wrong.

[Mountain Man]

I know its difficult or they wouldn't offer it - I'm not trying to say something is fishy because "why don't they just order it themselves" -

let's take an example of an item without a commission to make things simple, they are resellers... it's much easier to get a bunch of people to buy for them vs spending hours getting creative with guest purchases etc.

I'm just trying to figure out is there any other not kosher or illegal dynamic that could get someone in trouble.

It seems the only issue is "household limit"....and not sure if its even a ethical issue to ignore that?

You could say technically once you buy it it's yours to deal with so even if you have in mind to buy as many as you want once you get it you can then 'decide' to resell even though BestBuy does not want that.

Further, most of these groups supply best buy tax id's that are given to the buying group people from best buy after they show bestbuy they are resellers so it seems they if they cared they would shut it down.....they should be able to tie 1,000's of ipad orders to a tax id they gave out.

^^^^^ I do not know Halacha this is just my ramble....am I trying to justify something unethical?

I think you're only issue is getting your accounts banned at retailers. And you're writing an over simplIfication. You didn't once mention all the canceled orders and redirected packages. 50 macs in an hour (that actually got delivered) is incredibly impressive.

Imho it's very easy for the companies to link accounts. I believe they don't because it serves them well. It seems to me you should ask your LOR more than a forum. Or ping @yehuda .

[yelped]

PSA: Be very careful doing this. Most of these are shoestring operations and have no backup capital if something goes wrong.

If you get the packages to your house, and that buying group goes bankrupt, worst case you could just return the items. It's a pain, but it's not a terrible loss..

[cholent]

If you get the packages to your house, and that buying group goes bankrupt, worst case you could just return the items. It's a pain, but it's not a terrible loss..

Unless you give it to them in exchange for a check which then bounces