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Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« on: March 13, 2014, 02:38:48 AM »
DDFers connect like family so I'm turning to anyone who may have knowledge or experience in renter/landlord issues. 

A family rented an apartment with the understanding and condition (no contract) that they would only rent it if it had working appliances, a bathtub (not a shower), outside-of-apartment stroller and bicycle storage (in garage used for storage), etc.


QUESTION: Can the renter reduce the rent by a certain (nominal) amount if the landlord chooses to change his mind after a couple of years? (i.e., not fix appliances and pipes and use garage storage totally for himself)

I need to give someone advice on this tomorrow and my resource person is unavailable.  TIA

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 02:41:10 AM »
Paging AJK, henche...

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 02:45:17 AM »
Paging AJK, henche...
Neither of them are online at this early evening time....

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 02:46:14 AM »
Neither of them are online at this early evening time....
Guess not...  :(

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 02:50:54 AM »
Guess not...  :(
Thanks for trying.  I am also interested in the halachic answer.  Probably even more. 

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 02:53:32 AM »
Thanks for trying.  I am also interested in the halachic answer.  Probably even more.
New thread: "Any poskim out there I can ask a shaalah?" ;D Or maybe post in the "Is it Ethical" thread.

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 02:59:43 AM »
Can I change the title to any Lawyers/Poskim...?

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 03:15:21 AM »
Posting which city the apartment is would be very helpful.

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 06:41:04 AM »
DDFers connect like family so I'm turning to anyone who may have knowledge or experience in renter/landlord issues. 

A family rented an apartment with the understanding and condition (no contract) that they would only rent it if it had working appliances, a bathtub (not a shower), outside-of-apartment stroller and bicycle storage (in garage used for storage), etc.


QUESTION: Can the renter reduce the rent by a certain (nominal) amount if the landlord chooses to change his mind after a couple of years? (i.e., not fix appliances and pipes and use garage storage totally for himself)

I need to give someone advice on this tomorrow and my resource person is unavailable.  TIA
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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 08:05:18 AM »
I have no idea; there could be any number of issues here, both legal and practical.  Besides for the contract law issues, there are undoubtedly state and possibly local laws that impact you.

Try googling and see if your city has a tenants guide. That might be helpful.

Also, try calling a local lawyer.

Also, try getting a new apartment, with a contract.

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 10:25:27 AM »

DDFers connect like family so I'm turning to anyone who may have knowledge or experience in renter/landlord issues. 

A family rented an apartment with the understanding and condition (no contract) that they would only rent it if it had working appliances, a bathtub (not a shower), outside-of-apartment stroller and bicycle storage (in garage used for storage), etc.


QUESTION: Can the renter reduce the rent by a certain (nominal) amount if the landlord chooses to change his mind after a couple of years? (i.e., not fix appliances and pipes and use garage storage totally for himself)

I need to give someone advice on this tomorrow and my resource person is unavailable.  TIA
What does that mean they rented with an understanding? Was there some type of verbal agreement or just an assumption on the tenants part?

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 10:28:47 AM »
What does that mean they rented with an understanding? Was there some type of verbal agreement or just an assumption on the tenants part?
Verbal agreement regarding required necessities



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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 12:58:32 PM »
The answer, not as your lawyer, but as regular member of DDF is that, yes, generally if a LL breaches the lease, the T can withhold a portion of the rent.

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 01:00:35 PM »

The answer, not as your lawyer, but as regular member of DDF is that, yes, generally if a LL breaches the lease, the T can withhold a portion of the rent.

But be prepared to be sued.


Where did the OP say it was in the lease?

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Re: Any Lawyers out there of whom I may ask a question?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 01:01:44 PM »

Where did the OP say it was in the lease?
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