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If you are travelling to South Africa with a child under 18, you will need to have a birth certificate for the child which includes the names of both parents as they are on the parents' passports. They are very strict about this and will not let you in without it.

For a detailed look at the rules, including what is needed for a child travelling with only one parent or alone see here


Cape Town

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Yehoshua- starting here: forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=64252.msg1514765#msg1514765

Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_eatingOut.asp

Nothing dairy is CY, though CY milk and CY cheese is available at Checkers.

Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Boulders Beach - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Chapman's Peak Drive
Cape Point
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens

Johannesburg

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Yehoshua- starting here: forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=64252.msg1514741#msg1514741

Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Metzuyan
Reopened under new ownership.
Located in the Killarney Mall

Brioche (Glenhazel)
Brioche is a new (as of July 2016) chalav yisrael dairy place across the street from Kosher World. It's quite fancy and more expensive than Michelos, though still cheap by American standards at ~R15:$1. Their 6 textures of dark chocolate dessert was out of this world.
53 Ridge Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 028 1244/55.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


The Grill Open Flame (Glenhazel)
 The Grill has changed ownership and is now Open Flame. Add your review here if you have gone!
Address is half block away from Michelos pizza cafe on Northfield avenue, Phone: +27 11 728-7713.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/the-grill-glenhazel.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

Trip Reports
Cbs - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=30280.msg857566#msg857566
shmebeble - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3986.msg742580#msg742580
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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659.

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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2014, 01:11:18 PM »
I just got back from there a few weeks ago.
I am a bachur as well and went with a friend. We stayed in the Atlantic Affair Boutique Hotel in Sea Point. The hotel is good for the price and is the best location you will get. Literally one minute to their best restaurant and 3-5 minutes to 2/3 grocery stores that have good (extremely cheap) take out and other products.
I went to Kruger with a company that I would highly recommend- Nohngo Safaris. If you pay them for a tour they include the transportation and housing. Beer and snacks can be purchased in the park at any camp site. The real benefit of going with a guide at this time of year is that it is a raised vehicle and you will see over the grass, they also communicate with other guides to help you see the animals. Also the guides are extremely knowledgeable and learning about the animals as you watch them is invaluable.
Please PM me and I can talk over the phone. I spent a lot of time planning the trip and it worked out very well.
Best of luck.
I will write up a trip report when I am bored in class one day.
You can ask the hotel for a discount and the safari can give you one as well.
How much were your tickets?
Cape Town is just amazing! The Jewish infrastructure makes it one of the best places in the world. [Disclaimer- I have not been to as many places as many people on the forums- but until you go there you cannot disagree!]

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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2014, 01:13:27 PM »
I just got back from there a few weeks ago.
I am a bachur as well and went with a friend. We stayed in the Atlantic Affair Boutique Hotel in Sea Point. The hotel is good for the price and is the best location you will get. Literally one minute to their best restaurant and 3-5 minutes to 2/3 grocery stores that have good (extremely cheap) take out and other products.
I went to Kruger with a company that I would highly recommend- Nohngo Safaris. If you pay them for a tour they include the transportation and housing. Beer and snacks can be purchased in the park at any camp site. The real benefit of going with a guide at this time of year is that it is a raised vehicle and you will see over the grass, they also communicate with other guides to help you see the animals. Also the guides are extremely knowledgeable and learning about the animals as you watch them is invaluable.
Please PM me and I can talk over the phone. I spent a lot of time planning the trip and it worked out very well.
Best of luck.
I will write up a trip report when I am bored in class one day.
Thanks
tickets were about $480 each

i was thinking to rent a car

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2014, 04:35:13 PM »
Anybody know best award options for NY > JNB?

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Anybody know best award options for NY > JNB?
Try to get US air to route NYC-HKG-JNB

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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2014, 05:37:45 PM »
Try to get US air to route NYC-HKG-JNB
How many miles in First?

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How many miles in First?

Could be as low as 40k miles with US, and that includes a stop in TLV ;)

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Could be as low as 40k miles with US, and that includes a stop in TLV ;)
Anyone ever pull that one off?

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Anyone ever pull that one off?

Yup was on DDMS some time ago.

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Both VFA and LVI charge visa-on-arrival fees for US citizens, arrgghh. Don't think they can possibly compare to IGU/IGR anyway.

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I've been looking into avios tickets from JNB to CPT however I am getting quoted $190 in fees for a round trip? After looking online, most blogs stated that the fees for this route were capped at $44 each way. Has something changed since then? Are there any ways to use miles for these flights but avoid fuel surcharges?

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« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2014, 11:31:22 AM »
I've been looking into avios tickets from JNB to CPT however I am getting quoted $190 in fees for a round trip? After looking online, most blogs stated that the fees for this route were capped at $44 each way. Has something changed since then? Are there any ways to use miles for these flights but avoid fuel surcharges?
The $44 applies to BA tickets.
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« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2014, 11:35:47 AM »
I've been looking into avios tickets from JNB to CPT however I am getting quoted $190 in fees for a round trip? After looking online, most blogs stated that the fees for this route were capped at $44 each way. Has something changed since then? Are there any ways to use miles for these flights but avoid fuel surcharges?
It's a reward saver discount.
Transfer 1 Avios to BA and you'll get the discount for the next 12 months.
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« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2014, 01:25:57 PM »

It's a reward saver discount.
Transfer 1 Avios to BA and you'll get the discount for the next 12 months.

I just transferred points from Avios to BA and I still see the same $190 cash outlay. Maybe it takes a day or 2 to reflect on my account?

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« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2014, 01:26:49 PM »
I just transferred points from Avios to BA and I still see the same $190 cash outlay. Maybe it takes a day or 2 to reflect on my account?
Did you logout and back in yet?
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