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If you are travelling to South Africa with a child under 18, you will need to have a birth certificate for the child which includes the names of both parents as they are on the parents' passports. They are very strict about this and will not let you in without it.

For a detailed look at the rules, including what is needed for a child travelling with only one parent or alone see here


Cape Town

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_eatingOut.asp

Nothing dairy is CY, though CY milk and CY cheese is available at Checkers.

Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Boulders Beach - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Chapman's Peak Drive
Cape Point
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Metzuyan
Reopened under new ownership.
Located in the Killarney Mall

Brioche (Glenhazel)
Brioche is a new (as of July 2016) chalav yisrael dairy place across the street from Kosher World. It's quite fancy and more expensive than Michelos, though still cheap by American standards at ~R15:$1. Their 6 textures of dark chocolate dessert was out of this world.
53 Ridge Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 028 1244/55.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


The Grill Open Flame (Glenhazel)
 The Grill has changed ownership and is now Open Flame. Add your review here if you have gone!
Address is half block away from Michelos pizza cafe on Northfield avenue, Phone: +27 11 728-7713.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/the-grill-glenhazel.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659.

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« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2014, 11:22:30 PM »
Cape Town is simply the most beautiful city in the world.  It is flanked by striking mountains and the bluest sea.  If you go to Seapoint too, and kosher eating is of interest to you, there are five synagogues in walking distance and three very nice kosher restaurants.  The best time of year to go is dec-March.  I have lots of family there and have always had a very nice experience.  If you are concerned about safety, go out with others at night.  But I personally never experienced any issues. :)

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« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2014, 11:27:40 PM »
Cape Town is simply the most beautiful city in the world.  It is flanked by striking mountains and the bluest sea.  If you go to Seapoint too, and kosher eating is of interest to you, there are five synagogues in walking distance and three very nice kosher restaurants.  The best time of year to go is dec-March.  I have lots of family there and have always had a very nice experience.  If you are concerned about safety, go out with others at night.  But I personally never experienced any issues. :)

Thanks. Any nice and affordable hotels within walking distance to the shul and kosher area? Any recommendations?

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« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2014, 11:28:33 PM »
Thanks. Any nice and affordable hotels within walking distance to the shul and kosher area? Any recommendations?
Yes.
I like the Atlantic Affair Boutique hotel
I was there last January and am returning there in less than a month
Around the corner from the main meat place and 5-7 minutes from the shuls. I felt safe and welcome there

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Yes.
I like the Atlantic Affair Boutique hotel
I was there last January and am returning there in less than a month
Around the corner from the main meat place and 5-7 minutes from the shuls. I felt safe and welcome there

Affordable = points options? :)

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« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2014, 11:31:27 PM »
Affordable = points options? :)
No its a small place.
But a regular room runs less than $120 a night and the penthouse is less than $150 a night. It is really the best location for food and shul. 2 minute walk to the grocery store that has kosher take-out

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« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2014, 02:32:45 AM »
I just got back from there a few weeks ago.
I am a bachur as well and went with a friend. We stayed in the Atlantic Affair Boutique Hotel in Sea Point. The hotel is good for the price and is the best location you will get. Literally one minute to their best restaurant and 3-5 minutes to 2/3 grocery stores that have good (extremely cheap) take out and other products.
I went to Kruger with a company that I would highly recommend- Nohngo Safaris. If you pay them for a tour they include the transportation and housing. Beer and snacks can be purchased in the park at any camp site. The real benefit of going with a guide at this time of year is that it is a raised vehicle and you will see over the grass, they also communicate with other guides to help you see the animals. Also the guides are extremely knowledgeable and learning about the animals as you watch them is invaluable.
Please PM me and I can talk over the phone. I spent a lot of time planning the trip and it worked out very well.
Best of luck.
I will write up a trip report when I am bored in class one day.

Can you write a little more about how you researched to find a good and affordable trip to Kruger? I am in contact Nohngo now too and 2 others that I found online. How long was the tour you did, and how much did you pay per person?

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« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2014, 09:28:20 AM »
Can you write a little more about how you researched to find a good and affordable trip to Kruger? I am in contact Nohngo now too and 2 others that I found online. How long was the tour you did, and how much did you pay per person?
I went to tripadvisor and they were ranked number 1. I emailed them and a few other companies and they were very kind and responsive to my questions. They picked me up from a residence in JoBurg and returned me to that area as well. The guide was friendly, knowledgeable and energetic.

The best compliment I can give this company is that I am using them again in a month for another safari.

I did the four day adventure safari and it was perfect. You spend half of the first day on the way to the safari in a nice air conditioned van and you have a stop half way up there to stretch and move about. (whole thing takes about 3 1/2 hrs). Then we had the rest of that day and the following 2 days for safari. The last day we drove around in the morning and returned to JoBurg by early afternoon.
The current price is 8950 Rand which is about $775. I think I paid around $740 a year ago. They are giving me a discount this year since I am a returning customer.

Another point to add: The adventure option comes with a private bathroom and a small kitchenette area with a burner (electric) and a fridge. While the budget option is cheaper but has shared bathrooms, no kitchenette and you dont get the night drive included.
Truthfully, the best drive we had was the night drive because of the lions that were hanging out on the street and the wild dogs that were running around.

3 pictures from the night drive:

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« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2014, 09:30:16 AM »
Affordable = points options? :)
There are other hotels that do take points, but overall this is a better value and definitely a better location. Some people like renting apartments, but I am taking a garden route tour so will be spending 5 nonconsecutive days at the hotel.

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« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2014, 11:03:26 AM »
I went to tripadvisor and they were ranked number 1. I emailed them and a few other companies and they were very kind and responsive to my questions. They picked me up from a residence in JoBurg and returned me to that area as well. The guide was friendly, knowledgeable and energetic.

The best compliment I can give this company is that I am using them again in a month for another safari.

I did the four day adventure safari and it was perfect. You spend half of the first day on the way to the safari in a nice air conditioned van and you have a stop half way up there to stretch and move about. (whole thing takes about 3 1/2 hrs). Then we had the rest of that day and the following 2 days for safari. The last day we drove around in the morning and returned to JoBurg by early afternoon.
The current price is 8950 Rand which is about $775. I think I paid around $740 a year ago. They are giving me a discount this year since I am a returning customer.

Another point to add: The adventure option comes with a private bathroom and a small kitchenette area with a burner (electric) and a fridge. While the budget option is cheaper but has shared bathrooms, no kitchenette and you dont get the night drive included.
Truthfully, the best drive we had was the night drive because of the lions that were hanging out on the street and the wild dogs that were running around.

So I would only have 2 days to do safari tour, Sunday and Monday. Have return flight Monday night. They quoted me and a few friends for the most basic tour R3,000 per person. Though this will be more communal and will not include a night drive. What do you think?

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2014, 11:11:18 AM »
So I would only have 2 days to do safari tour, Sunday and Monday. Have return flight Monday night. They quoted me and a few friends for the most basic tour R3,000 per person. Though this will be more communal and will not include a night drive. What do you think?
The reason for the price is the pick-up and crop-off in Johannesburg.
When are you going?
I would not miss going on a safari after traveling all the way there. Are they taking you back late on the second day?
Make sure you leave Johannesburg early and return late if you do it this way. Also tell them you don't need an hour break for lunch at the pit-stop. They will not guarantee any sightings, but I saw 4 of the big 5 multiple times on my safari. If you will be disappointed if you dont see every animal then a private game reserve may be better, but it will cost you a bunch more.

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« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2014, 11:16:10 AM »
The reason for the price is the pick-up and crop-off in Johannesburg.
When are you going?
I would not miss going on a safari after traveling all the way there. Are they taking you back late on the second day?
Make sure you leave Johannesburg early and return late if you do it this way. Also tell them you don't need an hour break for lunch at the pit-stop. They will not guarantee any sightings, but I saw 4 of the big 5 multiple times on my safari. If you will be disappointed if you dont see every animal then a private game reserve may be better, but it will cost you a bunch more.


They would take us from Johannesburg and return us to the airport. This is for beginning of March. So you would say the price is right at about US$258 for the two days per person?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2014, 11:19:46 AM »
They would take us from Johannesburg and return us to the airport. This is for beginning of March. So you would say the price is right at about US$258 for the two days per person?
Yes. If you break down the price it is really good.
3 1/2 hr drive each way and gas is not cheap!
2 days of guided tour
1 night in a hotel
You are paying about $125 a day which is very reasonable.
Tip will be an additional 300R a person ($26)