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Related DDF Threads:
-Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread
-Lanai, Molokai, and Niihau, Hawaii Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Maui and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Maui Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

There is also an app version available for both iOS and Android for $7.99. The app has all the content of the book, plus navigation, offline maps, and links when applicable. You don't really need both, but some people find it useful to have the book while planning (much easier to use) and the app while on the island (for the maps and navigation).

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep Shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping Shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.

Note that you may run into this issue even if you leave the islands Thursday afternoon, as it may already be considered Shabbos. Ask your LOR.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Kahului, and is designated OGG. The are two other small airports - Kapalua (JHM) in the West Maui Mountains and Hana (HNM) in the east.
You could fly directly from the mainland to OGG from (bold is seasonal only):

ANC (AS)
BLI (AS, Allegiant Air)
DEN (UA)
DFW (AA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
ORD (UA)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
SAN (AS, HA)
SEA (AS, HA)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
SMF (AS)
YEG (WestJet)
YVR (AC, WestJet)
YYC (AC, WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to OGG from there.

Hawaiian and Go fly interisland from HNL, KOA, and LIH, Go, and Island Air flies from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island.

There is a DansDeals corporate account for Hawaiian Airlines that allows you to take 2 free bags per person, up to a $50 value per flight (see baggage fees chart). It also gives free standby on earlier flights. You can email jj@dansdeals.com with the exact flights, dates, and time that you want, passengers names and dates of birth, and the price you found on hawaiianair.com to make a booking. A $6 per person per leg fee applies.

Alternatively, you can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Maui. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

Hertz has Gold Choice at the airport. According to National's website there is no Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but according to reports there is one, albeit sparse to the point of uselessness. Also check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try. Costco Travel very often has great prices too.

Make sure to check your reservations often, as prices tend to drop a few weeks before pickup. If it does, make a new reservation and only then cancel your original one.

There's nothing like a convertible on Maui (especially on the Road to Hana). A 4WD is not really necessary, however some people feel more comfortable in one on the 'other side' of the Road to Hana and the hairy parts of Kahekill Hwy (east of the blowhole).

Air Maui will mail you a nice free paper map of the island - click here to request it. It usually takes a week or two to arrive.


Where to stay:

The two most popular area to stay are on the West side (Lahaina, Ka'anapali, Kapalua) and the South side (Wailea, Kihei), due to the better weather there. The South side could sometimes get windy in the winter, though. There are also many places to rent Upcountry (Kula, Pukalani), where the air is cooler and the views smashing (but farther from the beach).

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Hyatt RegencyWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteHyatt Category 5. The Hyatt advertises having Kosher food. In the past, these meals came from Oahu Kosher (Chabad in Honolulu). However, in Dec 2016 they claimed the meals were prepared by the Chabad of Maui, while in actuality they were prepared by a reform temple (story explained at the bottom of this post), which is still true as of Feb 2017.
AndazSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHyatt category 6. A favorite among DDFers, although award space isn't easy to come by.
Grand WaileaSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHilton - 80k-95k depending on season. Reminiscent of the GHK in Kauai with sprawling grounds and more pools than you count, located on the beautiful Wailea Beach.
SheratonWest side (Lahaina)WebsiteSPG category 6.
WestinWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteSPG category 6.
FairmontSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteAll suite hotel.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
HomeAway Maui
VRBO Maui
Airbnb Maui


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Maui, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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Beach 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 3Area 3Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Maui. Check the Maui Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Sliding SandsHaleakalaAn amazing hike into the crater from the upper visitors center. Quite challenging due to the constant downhill on a loose cinder trail. Amazing views unlike anything on the island, and no shade. The entire trail takes all day, but most people take it only partway in. Go as far as you like and remember that the way back is a constant uphill and will take twice as long. Bring lots of water.
Pipiwai TrailHanaOne of the nicest trail on Maui. A bit past Hana, just before the Seven Sacred Pools. The hike goes through the jungle, past banyan trees and a 200-foot waterfall, and through a bamboo forest (this is the highlight for most people). The trail ends at the amazing 400-foot Waimoku Falls. Give this hike a couple of hours.
Lava FieldSouth MauiAt the end of the road, past the Ahihi-Kinau Natural Area Reserve. This is an amazing and relatively difficult hike. You will be walking on sharp, loose lava rocks the entire time, but the views are smashing and the terrain interesting. Great views of a particularly wild stretch of ocean, interesting pools (not swimmable), and ends in a glorious (and generally empty) beach if you brave it till the end. Do the loop - hug the coast on the way out, and take the Kings Highway back. See Maui Revealed for all the details.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursA few companies offer this; Blue Hawaiian is generally considered to be the best. There are different routes to choose from - keep in mind that the ones going to Haleakala don't actually go into the crater. This is not as recommended on Maui as it is on other islands, since the entire island is pretty much easily accessible so you won't go anywhere remote or extremely amazing.
Road to HanaAbsolute must-do. Don't get scared off by misinformation and go all the way around - in a way the backside is even more spectacular that the more popular first half. You do NOT need a special car or 4WD; any regular car could do it happily. Best way to do the road is to spend the night in Hana, as that will leave the most time to explore the thousand different things along the road. If you're only going for the day, make sure to be on the road EARLY (7-7:30 the latest).
Haleakala SunriseA spectacular event that is not to be missed. You will wake up at the witching hour, it will be freezing cold, and it will be absolutely worth it. Be there at least 45 minutes before the listed sunrise - the earlier the better; they close the upper parking lot when it fills up and you'll have to park at the lower visitor center lot. Dress warmly and bring lots of jackets and blankets. Take the trail to Pakaoao (White Hill) and you'll have the sunrise to yourself (mostly, at least).
'Ohe'o Gulch (Seven Sacred Pools)Also known as the Seven Sacred Pools, this is in the Hana side of Haleakala National Park. Save your receipt from sunrise; it's valid for three days and will get you in to the pools too. Short hike from the parking lot to the pools, and it's absolutely stunning. Will be absolutely PACKED from around 1PM and on (but still worth it). If you're staying in Hana go early in the morning and it'll be mostly empty.
Snorkling Molokini craterCountless boat companies will take you out to Molokini. It has the best underwater visibility in the state, sometimes over 100 feet. Somewhat overrated and over-touristed, but generally considered to be worth it.
Kayaking
Biking
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises


Shopping:
  • Costco in Kahului has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island

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Re: Going to Maui
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2008, 05:26:47 AM »
We just got back from Maui so I figured I'd write a little round-up.
For starters, we took the superferry from Oahu to Maui (3 hour boatride). Beautiful view and very spacious.
We started with "The Road to Hanna" - a beautiful scenic route which leads you to the town of Hanna. This road was really beautiful but we did it right after the boatride - and the combination of sea-sickness and the curvy roads - made us really nauseous. Make sure you take drammamin with you.

We stayed at a gorgeous restort/hotel - the Westin in Kaanapali. (Starwood rewards) Absolutely beautiful hotel, right by the beach, a few different pools and stunning scenery. I advise you to take advantage of the many great things the hotel has to offer (pool, jacuzzi, shows, games etc.)

We went to the "Warren and Annabel" magic/comedy show. Very entertaining. This is located in the town of Lahaina (right near Kaanapali)

There are tons of tourist books with information on things to do in Maui.. there are tons of water sports, scenic views etc. to do on the Island.

You really feel like you are in Paradise on this Island.



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Maui Vacation Idea? Good deal?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2008, 01:34:56 AM »
im currently looking to book a vacation for August after tisha bav.
this is what im looking for in a trip.
Great resort type hotel (grand wailea - hawaii?)
kid friendly activities (i dont need day care, just stuff to do with them 3 and baby)
kosher food nearby?

if i can get a great deal on grand wailea type of hotel that would be great. I can always pack food with ice packs and get stuff from supermarkets...

I prefer not to travel too far.
coming out of los angeles, so a 5-6 hour flight to hawaii would be fine, but not more...

orbitz quoted 4100 for 3 (not incl baby) airfare and hotel stay at grand wailea for 4 nights.

any ideas on getting a steal of a deal for this??

thanks!!!
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Re: Vacation Idea? Good deal?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2008, 08:55:30 AM »
what about san diego? ;-) (if this is AF) whats up?

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Re: Vacation Idea? Good deal?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2008, 10:06:57 AM »
Moish this is how I'm in touch?!
San diego is great which we might end up doing but after july 31 I need to do something big to celebrate...

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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2008, 10:11:19 AM »
how did you get the discount on live.com

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2008, 10:28:46 AM »
Read there. Just search for a product there and it shows up in paid for ads. I don't know if still there.

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 10:40:51 PM »
i got a quote for 3650 for flight / hotel / car rental for the westin maui for 4 nights from Los Angeles.
good deal?
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Maui? How is it for the family?

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 11:35:34 PM »
i got a quote for 3650 for flight / hotel / car rental for the westin maui for 4 nights from Los Angeles.
good deal?
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Maui? How is it for the family?
Sound a like alot to me, I just booked the Westin Maui for $90 and 4,800 points per night

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Re: Vacation Idea? Good deal?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2008, 03:15:54 AM »
id love to use miles / points but i only have aa miles, about 75k
Anyone interested in using your miles / points for my vacation in exchange for cash?
I need flight from lax to ogg (maui)
hotel, 4 nights either: grand wailea, kea lani, or westin maui
this is for 2 adults, 1 3 year old and 1 infant, 10 months
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2008, 09:24:03 AM »
Dates?

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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2008, 10:14:07 AM »
I got another quote from westin for 3188

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I got another quote from westin for 3188
Try pricing everything out separately

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Re: Vacation Idea? Good deal?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2008, 11:48:55 AM »
i got a quote for 3650 for flight / hotel / car rental for the westin maui for 4 nights from Los Angeles.
good deal?
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Maui? How is it for the family?

Ok here goes, We stayed at the Westin Maui and I really have no comparisons to other hotels on the Island of Maui because we only stayed in the Westin so this is a disclaimer if someone comes along and says how their hotel was way better. I will break this up in a couple of paragraphs as this could get long.

In general if you will be visiting the State of Hawaii then you can get very different experiences by visiting the many different islands, for example if you visit Waikiki-Honolulu you may come away from the visit feeling like you visited a grander more exotic Miami Beach location. However if you visit Maui or Kauai which I have never been to but for comparison purposes is similar to Maui in relative to Waikiki, Then you will feel an entirely different experience. Something other worldly like time comes to a standstill and whatever you do its exotic and relaxing, just heavenly.

Understanding the Maui Experience, the hotels on Maui try to encompass that relaxed island, tropical atmosphere even in the most luxurious hotels where every need is catered and tended to. For Example take the Ritz-Carlton of Kapalua which is up in the top 4 hotels on Maui, Quoting from the "travel & Leisure Mag" ( http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/3353 ) the Ritz" was strangely out of touch with its tropical surroundings. Now after a $180 Million renovation, the hotel has lost the chintzy curtains, faux Renaissance artwork" " kukui tree-patterned area rugs cover dark Brazilian ironwood floors,  and wrought iron lanais look out on the island landscape".
The Ritz is just coming in line with what the other upscale Maui hotels are already offering as part of the package, if you want a stuffy hotel you will stay @ the 4 seasons in Beverly Hills , Guests come to Maui to simply chill albeit in luxury.

Ok let’s move on to the areas in Hawaii, Every Island has uniqueness in each area, Even Oahu on the Windward side is a completely different world than Waikiki and is worth spending time there.
So on Maui there is the Leeward side and the Windward side on the windward side is where for the most part all the tourists stay. There are 2-4 Main areas for Hotels

http://www.wizardpub.com/maui/mauaerials.html

This link will help explain what would take me thousands of words to write, also these guys are great and would highly recommend this guidebook to anyone going to Hawaii, it is a different kind of guidebook not your typical one, everything in color picture and most of the time brutally honest assessments of the things to do. Just a tip, If you are going to do the hike over the lava rock to the Fishbowl/Aquarium it is really hard and is in the adventures section for a reason but it is so worth it, there are no words to describe the beauty of the visibility and the fact that you will see very few people there if any, just wear a lot of sun block/ suntan lotion, you will feel like a fried fish otherwise ( We learnt the hard way, that 1 application wasn’t enough for 4 hours in the brutal sun)

The break down of the great hotels is

In South Maui:
Grand Wailea
Four Seasons

West Maui:
Westin Maui
Ritz-Carlton

We personally only stayed in the Westin. When we were on one of the boats, we met a couple who mentioned that they were staying on their honeymoon and divided their stay as follows based on their budget 2/nights @ Four Seasons and 2 Nights at the Westin, well we were thinking like We are staying 6 Nights @ the Westin and ill take 6 nights in Hawaii over 4. Trust me the Westin is a Beautiful hotel and of the countless tourists we met on the island many were staying @ the Westin and none had any bad to say about it, for most of the 6 nights we were there it was sold out! There were no parking spots left if we got there after 8pm and we went “off Season”.
(Just a note on Hotels in general, DO NOT DRINK from their glass cups in the room, we recalled after that we had seen this news story that we didn’t see them carrying cups in the housekeeping cart. See Story Here (http://consumerist.com/consumer/disgusting/secret-camera-investigation-every-single-hotel-failed-to-wash-your-cups-and-glasses-320053.php). We spilled our morning coffee on our sheets daily to insure they were changed, But that is because I am paranoid about those things.)

Finally to move on to the Westin in particular it is a beautifully done hotel in every sense of the word, when you walk in it is just exotically Overwhelming to your senses, We were enthralled, with real pink flamingo’s in the waterfalls which you can walk under, the lobby is outdoors but very elegant with stone floors and dark wood tones, it has all the character of a tropical hotel but incorporates the modern and luxurious touches seamlessly. The pictures online from the hotel Here ( http://westinmaui.com/rr_viewimages.htm) in this case don’t do justice at all I was amazed by how beautiful it was in person, the whole ambiance was refreshing beyond our imagination. If you are a starwood member and they offer you an upgrade take it! I would have preferred the Deluxe Oceanview  but was talked out of my upgrade by the booking agent in the lobby, the rooms are slightly bigger there, but I was taken by the shape of the Ocean Tower and higher floor so I went with that. The view was just mystical with 2 islands just visible off in the distance (Lanai, Molokai)
My only regret is that since we spent most of our time on trips touring the whole island and surrounding ones we only came to the hotel in the evening and were usually tired so we only got to enjoy a small part of the hotel, We only spent 1 day on the beach by the hotel learning how to snorkel,  plus shabbos, Next time we go back we will spend a few days just chilling in the hotel.

There are 5 pools, one is a kiddy pool with a slide and one is an adults only pool with an adjacent bar and hot tub outdoors, the adult pool and area is only open until 10 I think, but they only enforced it when there were a lot of people there,  I guess they didn’t want the noise.

The beach in front of the hotel is not very large but If you walk down the beach to the corner (5 Min) all the action is there, We saw a huge green  sea turtle just hanging, out I swam on top of it, and lots of really cool fish, the area is called black rock by the way. We took a really nice walk down the beach path on shabbos there.

As far as Kosher food goes we brought 3 boxes worth, and they gave us a microwave gratis, I really didn’t rely on kosher food from local although there is a Safeway 5 min. away, Sholom Shaye Shusterman and his wife were very accommodating and went out of their way to help us, I’m sure he would appreciate a call to him offering to bring him various food items, its very expensive to bring in food to Hawaii, When we were coming I offered to bring him anything he needed, so he asked us for a couple steaks. ( he didn’t really need much at the time as he had just gotten a shipment of food and other stuffs from family in NY) I asked him when the last time he had Red Meat was, he said like not for Six months, Organic chicken is available there, its amazing what self sacrifice these shluchim have, on his website ( http://www.jewishmaui.com/kosher.php) he has some info about available kosher food. We also didn’t have time to go shopping really we brought bread although I think if you go to the natural organic stores but Safeway won’t have it. We bought P&J,  tuna, we also bought different microwave cooking instruments like a egg scrambler so we had scrambled eggs we also brought American cheese frozen which stayed frozen through the flight from the east coast along with our bottle of milk , so we had a blast. Just another note, Since the Shopping stores like Costco and Wal-Mart are mostly on the Leeward side which is near the airport I would suggest doing all your shopping before you get to your hotel which is a like a 45 minute ride to the other side of the island. Also I would suggest making up your itinerary for your plans before you go, so that you get the most out of your trip as it is expensive, so use the time before you go or on the plane which is not costing you a lot of money instead of spending valuable time in Hawaii wasted planning stuff to do. Also make all your food the night before to help you get out the next morning.
If anyone has any questions please feel free to post or contact me directly.

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2008, 12:04:58 PM »
Wow!! that is alot of great information, I just booked the Westin for a friend of mine who is going in August, I'm sure after reading all this he will have an amazing time. Thank you for postiong in such detail!! after reading this post all I'm thinking is When am I going to Maui!? (paging Eli)
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