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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2014, 11:45:38 PM »
Hashem Yeazor...hope he can dispute the 350k that's owed to him

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2014, 08:35:42 AM »
Paragraph about showing sales to boost the stock.

That is totally illegal. The are clearly fraudsters, its in their sales pitch!


And since when does an audit tie up 6b ?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2014, 12:54:58 PM »
ohh these story make my stomach turn

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2014, 11:41:53 PM »
Its real sad to see so many people fall for these things. Its common to fall for the typical small scams of "My car ran out of gas", or "My wife just gave birth and i need money for a bus to the hospital". Those are 3-5 dollar scams, to swipe a CC for someone for so much money and to use your position of respect to convince others to get involved as well is simply sad to see. There are bad people out there that have no issue with taking advantage of naive unsuspecting people.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2014, 12:41:44 AM »
A friend approached me with this as well, he said he is trying to get money for his yeshiva (where he learns)through this.

He sent me a copy of his reciepts for 70k+ (he maxed out all his credit cards, he is so convinced). I couldn't find any flaw in his argument that even if it

is a scam, the credit card charges should be disputable, but the whole thing stinks!

 Considering that he told me they have been continuously extending the deadline for reimbursement a couple weeks already, plus the unprofessional

receipt (note that android is spelled "andrIOd"!!!) and the fact that the purchase is taken through a third party, just all stink like a scam! So i told him no way!

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2014, 12:50:24 AM »
wow... I cant believe people fall for such things...
“To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.”


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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2014, 06:35:33 AM »
What's the issue? It seems to be an easy way to make $$$, and all of it for a great cause.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2014, 07:41:51 AM »
He sent me a copy of his reciepts for 70k+ (he maxed out all his credit cards, he is so convinced). I couldn't find any flaw in his argument that even if it

is a scam, the credit card charges should be disputable, but the whole thing stinks!
What happens when the dispute is denied because it was for illegal activity?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2014, 08:26:59 AM »
What happens when the dispute is denied because it was for illegal activity?
Why are you being such a negative person?? Our emotional projections towards a goal help influence it to occur.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2014, 08:33:51 AM »
Why are you being such a negative person?? Our emotional projections towards a goal help influence it to occur.
I was going to ask if you were joking after your previous post, but you saved me the trouble   :o

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2014, 09:14:19 AM »
I was going to ask if you were joking after your previous post, but you saved me the trouble   :o
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2014, 09:18:21 AM »
What's the issue? It seems to be an easy way to make $$$, and all of it for a great cause.

Also in easy way to meet a minimum spend threshold. Who needs CVS anymore for MS!

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2014, 09:29:53 AM »
I've heard that millions - many millions - of dollars have already been invested in this scam.

And now when Tomchei Shabbos' budget goes up, we'll understand.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2014, 09:48:13 AM »
I want to clarify that this Rosh Yeshiva didn't put this together. He seems to be a target as well.

Says who? He CLAiMS he invested 500k? Maybe he IS the scammer.  Forget that, maybe your friend is in cahoots with him.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2014, 10:14:48 AM »
just remember today any guy could open a yeshiva get 6 bochurim and call himself a rosh yeshiva. I understand thats the kind of rh we are talking about

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2014, 01:13:18 PM »
just remember today any guy could open a yeshiva get 6 bochurim and call himself a rosh yeshiva. I understand thats the kind of rh we are talking about
Says who? He CLAiMS he invested 500k? Maybe he IS the scammer.  Forget that, maybe your friend is in cahoots with him.
Unfortuneately there are a whole bunch of yeshivos involved, i personally know two of the Rosh Yeshivos involved and while one of them is pretty young (low 40's) I believe that they are both chashuva wonderful honest people!

Before we cast stones at people, lets try and get some facts! There hasn't even been any actual scam (yet)!

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2014, 01:41:33 PM »
Unfortuneately there are a whole bunch of yeshivos involved, i personally know two of the Rosh Yeshivos involved and while one of them is pretty young (low 40's) I believe that they are both chashuva wonderful honest people!

Before we cast stones at people, lets try and get some facts! There hasn't even been any actual scam (yet)!

Trying to get people to put a lot of their own money into what is at best a get-rich-quick scheme is a scam in and of itself. What you mean is that there hasn't yet been credit card fraud. A little patience, and that will come too.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2014, 01:44:18 PM »
This ain't gonna end well.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2014, 01:50:56 PM »
Trying to get people to put a lot of their own money into what is at best a get-rich-quick scheme is a scam in and of itself. What you mean is that there hasn't yet been credit card fraud. A little patience, and that will come too.


+100

I find that lately the Yeshivas are putting the boys to work. Even if in a totally legitimate way I.e. fundraising, cooking, cleaning etc. The parents are sending their children to yeshiva to learn Torah. They are paying tuition to a Yeshiva to look after them. Besides for Purim it is unacceptable to send boys out collecting. Maybe allow them to put up a cholent for Friday night, but to cook a whole Shabbos??

How much more so to involve them in something like this. What does it teach them? How will the Rosh explain when everyone is in 25K debt due to this scam?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2014, 02:04:40 PM »


+100

How will the Rosh explain when everyone is in 25K debt due to this scam?

Easy. Either it was a G'zairah min Hashomayim or Hester Panim.