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This is the thread for all random/general questions about Southwest. The official airline code for Southwest is WN as SW was taken by Air Namibia, but many people on the forums refer to Southwest as SW since no one talks about Air Namibia ever.

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2014, 03:53:02 PM »
Redeeming miles is slightly better but then you dont earn any.
Personally the way I did it is I would use up all the 110k SW points I had & from now on either I'll buy Chase UR at 1.45 or so or ill just pay straight up. Cant get chase points as I was kicked out for no reason. (They claim I had too much credit with them, no transfers to other names etc)

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2014, 04:08:35 PM »
Redeeming miles is slightly better but then you dont earn any.
How do you figure? Good point with earning when you pay, I would think that makes paying technically more valuable. (Obviously using miles you got for free is the best way to go.)

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2014, 04:33:49 PM »
Since SW's award chart is based on the cash value of a flight, it shouldn't matter whether you pay with cash or points in terms of your actual cost, right? Meaning - there's no difference if you pay $100 for a flight or 7000 points for a flight (if that's the right conversion) - you didn't miss out on using your miles for a better redemption. Correct?
AJK? ilherman? You guys are always the reliable $-to-miles calculators. Any help?

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2014, 04:38:16 PM »
With WN, you're actually generally getting a better value than 1.43 by redeeming points (Chapshnell deleted his/her post saying 1.43), because you only pay the base fare equivalent in points + the security tax of $5.60 (used to be $2.50), and not the other taxes, like excise tax, segment fee, etc.

The below works out to be ~1.67.

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2014, 04:42:23 PM »
Actually, I think. 0.017007534983854

A $237 flight they want 13,935 SW Miles

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2014, 04:50:35 PM »
With WN, you're actually generally getting a better value than 1.43 by redeeming points (Chapshnell deleted his/her post saying 1.43), because you only pay the base fare equivalent in points + the security tax of $5.60 (used to be $2.50), and not the other taxes, like excise tax, segment fee, etc.

The below works out to be ~1.67.
Thanks for explaining with the example. But how do you calculate it with the 932 points you get for paying cash in that example?

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2014, 10:50:02 PM »
Actually, I think. 0.017007534983854

A $237 flight they want 13,935 SW Miles
But you have to remove the $5.60 you pay even when booking with miles and the amount of miles you earn by paying cash, which is how I realize AJK came up with his math.

So, you normally get ~1.67 cpp when booking with miles, but if there was a big sale or something and your cpp dropped down to something like 1.25 let's say, then it would be worth it to pay with cash, right? Like Dan said in the recent DDMS post about redemption value - not to redeem if you aren't getting at least a certain cpp that you establish your point are worth.

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2014, 11:28:55 PM »
You're missing the point. If there is a sale, that'd be the same sale for revenue and/or award, because it's a revenue based program.
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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2014, 12:05:20 AM »
You're missing the point. If there is a sale, that'd be the same sale for revenue and/or award, because it's a revenue based program.
I know. Sale was the wrong word. I meant if you could get your ticket for less than it costs such as via a discounted GC.

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2014, 09:58:35 AM »
If I book someone a paid ticket from my account and put my FFN in the reservation, any chance I'll get the miles?

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2014, 10:11:14 AM »
No

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2014, 10:14:21 AM »
That's what I figured.

Better Q:
My wife (who is my CP) needs to fly alone. I have travel funds that are linked to my name and it won't let me use them on her res. If I book the ticket for myself (use the travel funds) and add my wife as my CP and then I just skip the flight, would that work? She wouldn't lose her ticket if I don't show, correct?

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2014, 11:04:59 AM »
Companion cannot fly without the holder of the CP.
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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2014, 11:06:33 AM »
Companion cannot fly without the holder of the CP.
But what would happen? She won't be allowed to checkin?

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Re: Southwest questions
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2014, 11:25:51 AM »
WN boarding systems check that CP holder checked in at jetway. If not, companion will be denied boarding.

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