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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2017, 11:18:48 AM »
What's the relevance. Either answer the question or don't. As Shapiro once said, you don't need a degree in Sociology to know BS when you see it
Lets get this clear. Do you have any knowledge at all about the potential comlexities and issues or are you just making baseless assumptions?
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2017, 11:19:40 AM »
I'm coming from a point of logic. If I'm wrong, so be it.

FWIW, the kashrus agencies in Israel don't allow FG due to either tzaar baalei chaim or humanitarian reasons (not the same thing)
Do you have the underlying knowledge needed to make logical deductions?
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2017, 11:20:17 AM »
Why do you think that is the only extra issue?
I was responding to this

The pipe in the goose's throat can make it treifah.
And the liver needs to be kosherized by broiling, but broiling just a bit too much ruins the foie gras.

If you have anything else to add, why did you wait until now

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2017, 11:21:32 AM »
Do you have the underlying knowledge needed to make logical deductions?
There you go again citing to authority. Like I said before, either answer the question or don't

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2017, 11:23:19 AM »
I wonder if I would even like it.

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2017, 11:23:58 AM »
I wonder if I would even like it.
Oh, it's delicious

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2017, 11:24:49 AM »
Oh, it's delicious

Does it taste like liver? I like liver

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2017, 11:26:46 AM »
There you go again citing to authority. Like I said before, either answer the question or don't
I will not go into a whole discussion about which there are hundreds of tshuvos over here. If you want to base what you do on am haaratzus do so at your own risk. Do you know anything about how to find a treifo in the dakin or in the veshet to know whether they are of the same complexity or not? Why are you assuming that they are the same? That is like saying that since a doctor is reliable for surgery on an ingrown toenail he should be reliable for brain surgery too.
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2017, 11:27:35 AM »
I will not go into a whole discussion about which there are hundreds of tshuvos over here. If you want to base what you do on am haaratzus do so at your own risk. Do you know anything about how to find a treifo in the dakin or in the veshet to know whether they are of the same complexity or not? Why are you assuming that they are the same? That is like saying that since a doctor is reliable for surgery on an ingrown toenail he should be reliable for brain surgery too.

Do you like it?

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2017, 11:29:25 AM »
Do you like it?
Do I like what? Foie gras? I have never tasted it. My great grandfather was makpid not to eat geshtupte ganz.
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2017, 11:31:43 AM »
I will not go into a whole discussion about which there are hundreds of tshuvos over here. If you want to base what you do on am haaratzus do so at your own risk. Do you know anything about how to find a treifo in the dakin or in the veshet to know whether they are of the same complexity or not? Why are you assuming that they are the same? That is like saying that since a doctor is reliable for surgery on an ingrown toenail he should be reliable for brain surgery too.
I base what I do not on svaros but rather in the fact that IMO they are a good hechsher and they are telling me it's kosher. The fact that they, and most European kashrus agencies, never took on the chumrah of glatt doesn't change that. As an American, where glatt is the way of life, to the point that not glatt in America means not kosher, I personally would never eat not glatt meat. But poultry is different.

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2017, 11:32:38 AM »
Do I like what? Foie gras? I have never tasted it. My great grandfather was makpid not to eat geshtupte ganz.
In my grandfathers shtetl they did (I think)
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2017, 11:33:31 AM »
I base what I do not on svaros but rather in the fact that IMO they are a good hechsher and they are telling me it's kosher. The fact that they, and most European kashrus agencies, never took on the chumrah of glatt doesn't change that. As an American, where glatt is the way of life, to the point that not glatt in America means not kosher, I personally would never eat not glatt meat. But poultry is different.
The reasoning behind glatt would apply to this even more than it does to cows.
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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2017, 11:35:10 AM »
The reasoning behind glatt would apply to this even more than it does to cows.
At this point I would defer to a rov. I'm not qualified to respond to that.

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Re: Kosher Foie Gras in US?
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2017, 11:38:23 AM »
I had it a few years ago at a wedding in London. It was served up by a caterer who is deemed to be the top kosher caterer in the UK. It was awful. Far too rich. Many of us sent it back for a plate of smoked salmon instead.