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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2014, 08:11:41 PM »
I'm a little far from Brooklyn but I'll give them a call. Thanks
Although I got excited about building from scratch. Is it such a big undertaking?
usually when you do u it yourself the holes aren't perfect which forces to redrill every year or start the numbering game. When ever you change the size or shape you gotta do the holes again. These are drilled perfectly and are all interchangeable.  I've done both and the time and money involved in building panels yourself makes it hardly worth the effort.  I would compare it to doing an oil change yourself vs. a mechanic, even if you're fully qualified most of us dont have the equipment they have .

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 08:29:33 PM »

That's what I was thinking about doing. Why three way joint? For the corners? Any ideas on type of wood, thickness, etc?
Smart idea about the schach

I would try to to get big thin sheets, worst case scenario you could use plywood
 A 3way joint for corners, if they don't have that you could try to put two joists (spelling) but then you would probably have to use 4x4 posts which are heavy


You might consider this cheating but you could try to replicate this ( or just buy it)
http://www.sukkot.com/index.htm
You should look at the gallery for some ideas

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 08:45:36 PM »
I would try to to get big thin sheets, worst case scenario you could use plywood
 A 3way joint for corners, if they don't have that you could try to put two joists (spelling) but then you would probably have to use 4x4 posts which are heavy


You might consider this cheating but you could try to replicate this ( or just buy it)
http://www.sukkot.com/index.htm
You should look at the gallery for some ideas

That looks interesting. I would want to modify it to make it more mehudar and add a door.
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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2014, 08:48:09 PM »
usually when you do u it yourself the holes aren't perfect which forces to redrill every year or start the numbering game. When ever you change the size or shape you gotta do the holes again. These are drilled perfectly and are all interchangeable.  I've done both and the time and money involved in building panels yourself makes it hardly worth the effort.  I would compare it to doing an oil change yourself vs. a mechanic, even if you're fully qualified most of us dont have the equipment they have .

I think you're supposed to number even if the walls are interchangeable. The mishkan was like that.
It's not just about cost and ease. I like doing things myself. I tie my own tzitzis, make my own wicks on channuka. Obviously this is a whole other league but if it's not too crazy I would like to give it a try. If it really is a big deal than I would consider buying panels.
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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 08:54:43 PM »
My father did the following:

Boards
Take large boards as high as you want, and about 4 feet wide.
Make a "frame" of 2x4's around it.  You put the "2" side against the last 2 inches of each side of the board, and screw it together. This is done by lying the board on top of the 2x4's after you have laid them out in the correct shape on the ground.
Then add one more 2x4 to each board, crosswise in the middle between the others, to prevent torsion.
Then, drill holes through the 2x4's, through the "4" side, towards the top and bottom. You will put bolts through these to hold the boards to each other. (More probably, you will just screw them together because you will run out of time.)
You will need longer bolts for the corners, and to drill through the whole depth of the 2x4 (so going in the 2 side).

Top
You will then make beams to hold it together on top.  Take 2x4's, long enough to span the width. Attach brackets to the ends, and screw them into the opposite walls. This will both make the sukka sturdy, and also be  place to lay schach.  Use mats. You can even staple down screens (ask your LOR) to keep out buggies.

Door
You will cut out of one of the boards the size of the door you will buy. Buy a regular bathroom type door, that comes with a doorframe. You will need to make your 2x4 frame in a funny shape around the door frame.

Light
Buy outdoor lights, run a wire, and drill them into the boards.

Caulking
The better you coat it with polyurethane, the longer it will last before it is too warped to easily put up and down.

Long term
It will warp. You will get tired of taking it up and down. You will leave it up year round. If well constructed, it will last about 10 years.

Cost
Not cheap. The lumber will be expensive.

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2014, 08:58:35 PM »
My father did the following:
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My parents had such a sukka - came with the house (custom made to fit on the porch, under the overhang...). We used it for probably 15 years (and it wasn't new when we got it) but eventually they got rid of it because it was very heavy and a huge schlep to build. Now they have a succah depot sukka. Very happy with it.
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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2014, 09:14:39 PM »
My parents had such a sukka

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:28 PM »
I think you're supposed to number even if the walls are interchangeable. The mishkan was like that.
It's not just about cost and ease. I like doing things myself. I tie my own tzitzis, make my own wicks on channuka. Obviously this is a whole other league but if it's not too crazy I would like to give it a try. If it really is a big deal than I would consider buying panels.
building the panels is like spinning the strings for tzitzis. there's still plenty of work putting them together. Also you live with the mistakes for the life of the sukkah.

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 09:20:48 PM »
Just a suggestion : I build my sukkah on 2x3's to ensure perfectly even walls even if the ground is slightly uneven. This is especially important if your are drilling your own panels.

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 09:25:01 PM »
We're brothers, idiot.  I'm watching you as you post.
Are not. I'm home alone.
Plus, I've never been a brother and I never will.
Sorry to burst your bubble
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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 09:27:23 PM »
Are not. I'm home alone.
Plus, I've never been a brother and I never will.
Sorry to burst your bubble

Well, I will never be your brother either.  I'm sorry you don't have brothers.

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 09:28:18 PM »
Well, I will never be your brother either.  I'm sorry you don't have brothers.
I have brothers. But I am not one.
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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2014, 09:32:04 PM »
I have brothers. But I am not one.

oh!

You're one of "them."

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 09:32:44 PM »
oh!

You're one of "them."

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Re: Building a Sukkah
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 09:42:36 PM »
Sorry for not making it more clear in my username!
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