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Some of you are unbelievable. All the post does is encourage you to be careful with your personal information, to think hard about the type of schemes you are getting yourself into and to excersize caution and discretion with credit/financial decisions. So the only people whose parnassah is getting screwed by this are those that are relying on duping others to some extent.

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Author Topic: PSA - Stay Away From The Card Signup Farms Who Offer $5000 In One Month  (Read 301093 times)

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2014, 08:39:52 AM »

Whats the big issue of a FR they will see how much i filed by the IRS and they usually let it open. The only thing that bothers me is the Chilul Hashem.
you can check out the FR thread to see what the big deal is.
Who says a FR is your biggest concern? I was speaking to someone recently who got blacklisted from Amex for these refundable shticks and he would of passed an FR.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2014, 08:44:27 AM »
1.  Damage has already been done by these people, AND 
2.  The longer we wait to shut them down, the deeper they are going to get into trouble trying to make ends meet. 
3.  The deeper they get, the shadier/more desperate their actions.
4.  The shadier their actions, the worse of a name they will be creating for making $$/miles from CCs.
5.  The worse of a name they make,....woe is on us.


6.  Anyone willing to spearhead a campaign with a bunch of us behind you preparing the next moves for you?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2014, 08:49:58 AM »
I have an idea if you want to try to shut them down. In the same magazines that they advertise in, you put an add with the kol koreh that went out a few months ago bashing these people.
For that to be effective you will need to have more signatures than just Lakewood rabbonim.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2014, 08:53:37 AM »
When this explodes, it will hurt our pockets in a big way.
We also have a big financial interest to bring them down.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2014, 08:54:59 AM »
For that to be effective you will need to have more signatures than just Lakewood rabbonim.
R shmuel kamenetsky is on the list of signatures, and you can call him for more details like dan did http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43147.0
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2014, 08:55:27 AM »
When this explodes, it will hurt our pockets in a big way.
We also have a big financial interest to bring them down.
so lets get to work and make something happen

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2014, 08:59:36 AM »
Why exactly does this bother everybody so much? anybody with half a brain knows this probably isnt 100% kosher but they want the money its not a scam they pay the money when they get the points? Its not like scam games etc where you will never see money? Worst case scenario you get fr'ed and cant get another amex? whats the big problem

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2014, 09:01:41 AM »
Why exactly does this bother everybody so much? anybody with half a brain knows this probably isnt 100% kosher but they want the money its not a scam they pay the money when they get the points? Its not like scam games etc where you will never see money? Worst case scenario you get fr'ed and cant get another amex? whats the big problem
Did you see the OP?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2014, 09:03:41 AM »
R shmuel kamenetsky is on the list of signatures, and you can call him for more details like dan did http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43147.0
If you want R shmuel kamenetsky's phone number, PM me
I don't need more details. I am saying that this will be needed for such a strategy to be effective in some non Lakewood communities
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2014, 09:04:48 AM »
Did you see the OP?
Im assuming they say al tenai you get approved

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2014, 09:06:12 AM »
Why exactly does this bother everybody so much? anybody with half a brain knows this probably isnt 100% kosher but they want the money its not a scam they pay the money when they get the points? Its not like scam games etc where you will never see money? Worst case scenario you get fr'ed and cant get another amex? whats the big problem

Because it will explode sooner rather than later and it's going to hurt us big time.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2014, 09:06:56 AM »
Who's starting a crowdfunding thread to raise money to run ads exposing these people's tactics?

It's worth every dollar. One credit card being declined a year from now because of it is a bigger loss than any money you need to invest in it.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2014, 09:06:58 AM »
The kol koreh against MS was probably directed at them more than us

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2014, 09:07:25 AM »
Because it will explode sooner rather than later and it's going to hurt us big time.
Us credit card signer uppers or us jews?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2014, 09:17:51 AM »
Why exactly does this bother everybody so much? ..... whats the big problem
The kol koreh against MS was probably directed at them more than us
We may think that, but not most of the world out there who hears what we do.
When this explodes, it will hurt our pockets in a big way.
We also have a big financial interest to bring them down.

so lets get to work and make something happen

I already have two people.  PM me if you are interested in self preservation.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2014, 09:43:29 AM »
For the person that needs the 5k is this really that bad?
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2014, 09:46:09 AM »

 Is it worth to drop out now after getting some credit pulls, When i can make 2k just to avoid a FR?

 
a) So you don't mind his shady cc practices if you can benefit.  You already showed your stripes by signing up with him - you saw dollar signs.   
b) You intend to let hem do the work and THEN shut him down and take the points - so stealing his work is ok.             
c) He has your SS# ! Don't play hardball with a scam artist.

So if you're not worried about anything said in this thread, just allow things the take their course and take the money he gives you and hope for the best.   But earlier you expressed concern at what you may have gotten into.
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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2014, 09:46:42 AM »
For the person that needs the 5k is this really that bad?
He should do it by himself, open ccs, spend & earn!
If he really needs it!
Because the other way is just "NOT" an option.

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2014, 09:49:16 AM »
For the person that needs the 5k is this really that bad?
so someone who does some dumb things In Walmart is bad, but this isn't?! Which outcome is worse in the long run?

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Re: PSA - Stay Away From The People In Lakewood Who Offer $5000 In One Month
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2014, 09:50:56 AM »
He should do it by himself, open ccs, spend & earn!
If he really needs it!
Because the other way is just "NOT" an option.
For someone that does not have the know-how/patience/interest in doing the work, why is it that bad? It's an easy couple thousand and 99% of the people have no issues.

(just playing devils advocate here)