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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #360 on: August 09, 2017, 02:19:17 PM »
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Just curious why you would want the Austrian award? The one on Swiss looks much better to me. Somewhat less travel time, real business in both segments, and you land earlier
It even has $15 less taxes and fees
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #361 on: August 09, 2017, 02:21:26 PM »
Keep in mind you'll be paying less miles but a lot more $ booking with miles and more vs United
YQ < 28k UA

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #362 on: August 09, 2017, 02:22:43 PM »
YQ < 28k UA
Fair enough. I made the same choice
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #363 on: August 09, 2017, 02:24:28 PM »
I see the same flight available at saver level on both. You'll have to call for the pricing you want as hvaces42 said

flex is showing at 92k for ow business. the mileage calculator says 67k, without the israeli residence discount.


Just curious why you would want the Austrian award? The one on Swiss looks much better to me. Somewhat less travel time, real business in both segments, and you land earlier
It even has $15 less taxes and fees
i'm not taking the austrian flight, i just didnt want to say swiss/lufthansa or people would start telling me phantom availability.




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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #364 on: August 09, 2017, 02:28:34 PM »
flex is showing at 92k for ow business. the mileage calculator says 67k, without the israeli residence discount.
67k? J?
Its 35k in J TLV-EU and then 52k EU-US thats 87k

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Re: Miles and more
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #366 on: August 09, 2017, 02:37:25 PM »
http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng

take a look
Strange...and great!

Call them and please report back. Looking to book in the next few days as well and it was pricing at 92k too but the other way.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #367 on: August 09, 2017, 02:42:38 PM »
67k? J?
Its 35k in J TLV-EU and then 52k EU-US thats 87k
TLV-xxx-NYC J with an israeli address is 52k M&M on the phone.
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« Reply #368 on: August 09, 2017, 02:44:10 PM »
http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng

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It says "from 67k". So it's probably technically possible to be that rate but usually the 92k quoted with a us address
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #369 on: September 05, 2017, 09:55:43 AM »
Booked TLV-FRA-JFK for 52k + $292.34, changed to TLV-EWR. They charged me 50EUR change fee plus 90.45EUR (no clue what for). Flew and they refunded me $37.14 Been on the phone with them for an hour plus and cannot get a straight answer how UA direct flight can be more expensive than LH. 

ETA: LH claims UA collected $303 in YQ  >:(
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #370 on: October 18, 2017, 03:01:04 PM »
Seems they only allow searching for award tickets if you have 7k miles, anyone else getting this? any work around?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #371 on: December 07, 2017, 12:44:44 PM »
I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #372 on: December 07, 2017, 12:51:41 PM »
I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
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They have those all the time. YQ absolutely decimates the savings.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #373 on: December 07, 2017, 01:31:20 PM »
I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
M & M promo page
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