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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #360 on: June 27, 2017, 07:59:16 PM »
Any takers?

Free? I'll take two! (And then resell on eBay)
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #361 on: June 29, 2017, 09:11:02 AM »
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #362 on: June 30, 2017, 09:08:48 AM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-30/trump-floats-repealing-obamacare-now-replacing-it-later

If he pulls this one off, it will be almost on the caliber of the Gorsuch nomination!
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #364 on: June 30, 2017, 11:48:36 AM »
what's the story with health sharing ministries?


Im looking to an alternative to getting fined for having no coverage....
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #365 on: June 30, 2017, 12:06:53 PM »
what's the story with health sharing ministries?


Im looking to an alternative to getting fined for having no coverage....
I would say that one needs to ask a competent LOR if allowed to join. Also one should realize that certain things might not be covered, but in many scenarios it could be OK, if Halachically permitted.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #366 on: June 30, 2017, 01:01:54 PM »
I would say that one needs to ask a competent LOR if allowed to join. Also one should realize that certain things might not be covered, but in many scenarios it could be OK, if Halachically permitted.
what's the potential halachic issues?
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #367 on: June 30, 2017, 01:05:33 PM »
what's the potential halachic issues?
Joining a Christian ministry.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #368 on: June 30, 2017, 01:18:52 PM »
Joining a Christian ministry.
I hear ya..

So any other options that I don't know of for avoiding paying a penalty? (aside from signing up for health insurance and paying a fortune to subside everyone else....
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #369 on: June 30, 2017, 01:22:01 PM »
I hear ya..

So any other options that I don't know of for avoiding paying a penalty? (aside from signing up for health insurance and paying a fortune to subside everyone else....
If you're under 30 and healthy, Catastrophic plan can work in many cases.

If you have your own business, there might be some creative ways to at least get some decent tax benefits.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #370 on: June 30, 2017, 01:23:47 PM »
If you're under 30 and healthy, Catastrophic plan can work in many cases.

If you have your own business, there might be some creative ways to at least get some decent tax benefits.
what does Catastrophic cover? I assume as the name implies?

I do have my own business...
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #371 on: June 30, 2017, 01:26:59 PM »
what does Catastrophic cover? I assume as the name implies?

I do have my own business...

Catastrophic covers everything 100% after a very high deductible. (Though you should be eligible for one free well-visit per year, not subject to deductible).

If you want to discuss business options (NY is easier than NJ, other states I don't do) contact me after shabbos.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #372 on: June 30, 2017, 01:37:55 PM »
Joining a Christian ministry.
There is someone putting together a Jewish group. I will try to find out if its a pipe dream or if he actually is getting anywhere.

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #373 on: June 30, 2017, 01:45:58 PM »
There is someone putting together a Jewish group. I will try to find out if its a pipe dream or if he actually is getting anywhere.
thanks,is that the jewish guy that advertises in all the publications?
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #374 on: June 30, 2017, 01:46:16 PM »
Catastrophic covers everything 100% after a very high deductible. (Though you should be eligible for one free well-visit per year, not subject to deductible).

If you want to discuss business options (NY is easier than NJ, other states I don't do) contact me after shabbos.
NY, will do. Thanks!
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #375 on: June 30, 2017, 02:12:55 PM »
NY marketplace

Once I picked a plan, can I change NY marketplace insurance plan, not in the enrollment period?

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #376 on: June 30, 2017, 02:25:18 PM »
NY marketplace

Once I picked a plan, can I change NY marketplace insurance plan, not in the enrollment period?
Probably only if you had a life change event.

If it is extremely critical to change, there are some workarounds, but there will be a time lag with the workaround I have in mind right now.
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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #377 on: June 30, 2017, 03:34:50 PM »
...and paying a fortune to subside everyone else....

Thats how all insurance works. Insurance is a wealth/ risk redistribution system.

People that dont get into car accidents subsidies the people that do.

Professionals that commit malpractice are subsidized by the ones that dont.

The real problem that noone in DC seems willing to talk about it how to reduce the cost of healthcare. Healthcare is 17% of GDP that means on average you should be paying 17% of your earnings towards healthcare. 

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Re: Obamacare Master thread
« Reply #379 on: July 05, 2017, 10:16:40 AM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348200/medicaid-deniers-avik-roy

When it doesn't suit their agenda the liberals suddenly become science deniers-of a study they themselves originally touted!
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