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Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #800 on: December 20, 2015, 06:48:41 PM »
The question is how in heck do you find something like this??

Some traveler from Sea is trying to get out of the cold and see as much as he/she can and falls into it by accident.  Or someone found Syd-Dps as a 3x and then attempted to work it into a usable itinerary. 

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #801 on: January 24, 2016, 03:34:01 PM »
I was playing around on ITA and saw how pretty much all flights can be reduced by $415 even in summer. Don't want to publish specifics on here. I am sure you can figure it out. Clues: Christie, אר--ת,Soda container, 1842-1997
I just read this last night, and figured out most of the clues, read through most of the thread and learned about FD. Thank for the education.

I couldn't figure out the last hint last night, but this morning as I finished Davening I figured it out. Very nice clue.

So now let me share my recent finds (not FD, but cut over $200 per Y or over $1000 per J - unfortunately this time around I am going with wife and 3 kids, so even after savings $1000 on J, it is a little too much, sticking to Y)

Here are my clues:

Given the recent weather, I found it more palatable to avoid the lake effect snow and travel from the other side of the lake. It really makes going via the triangle much easier on the wallet. But since I wanted to arrive in the morning, the better option Was there (especially if I would travel in J).

I would appreciate some good challenging fishing lessons in finding FDs. I am assuming ITA is the preferred tool.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #802 on: January 24, 2016, 07:53:56 PM »
I just read this last night, and figured out most of the clues, read through most of the thread and learned about FD. Thank for the education.

I couldn't figure out the last hint last night, but this morning as I finished Davening I figured it out. Very nice clue.

So now let me share my recent finds (not FD, but cut over $200 per Y or over $1000 per J - unfortunately this time around I am going with wife and 3 kids, so even after savings $1000 on J, it is a little too much, sticking to Y)

Here are my clues:

Given the recent weather, I found it more palatable to avoid the lake effect snow and travel from the other side of the lake. It really makes going via the triangle much easier on the wallet. But since I wanted to arrive in the morning, the better option Was there (especially if I would travel in J).

I would appreciate some good challenging fishing lessons in finding FDs. I am assuming ITA is the preferred tool.
Nice. Very nice!
But sometimes Intercontinental works better depending on the dates.  Also Uplands might do better.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #803 on: January 24, 2016, 07:57:39 PM »
Really random FD posted on fly4free.com


It takes a Sea-Syd RT flight on delta that costs $1,140 including $680 in YQ, and adds a RT flight from Sydney to Bali in middle of the trip, which dumps about 95% of it! Final result: Sea-Syd-Dps-Syd-Sea for $589 on Delta bookable on Expedia!


Can be done from SFO too for $541 bookable on priceline!

From San Diego pricing at $644
Lax at $820
DATES:
Availability from February to March 2016
Example dates:
7th-18th Feb – 2nd Mar
10th-18th Feb – 2nd Mar
15th-24th Feb – 7th Mar
1st-8th-15th Mar

http://www.secretflying.com/2015/12/2-in-1-trip-san-francisco-to-both-sydney-bali-for-only-541-return/
This one is a very good example of EOE combination.
2 rt fares combined ( with nice results )
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #804 on: January 24, 2016, 08:33:12 PM »
Nice. Very nice!
But sometimes Intercontinental works better depending on the dates.  Also Uplands might do better.
But if NYC is my base, I need to factor in a way to get the the point of origin (still using 4500 Avios) using my points of origin.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #805 on: January 24, 2016, 09:45:04 PM »
This one is a very good example of EOE combination.
2 rt fares combined ( with nice results )
I would imagine this doesn't happen too often...

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #806 on: January 24, 2016, 11:01:41 PM »
My first time reading a full thread start to finish. Addiction is the word.
Oh, and did anyone mention a waste of time?
But it gives me a glimpse of hope for those 8k+ threads that I need to work on...
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #807 on: January 24, 2016, 11:06:32 PM »
My first time reading a full thread start to finish. Addiction is the word.
Oh, and did anyone mention a waste of time?
But it gives me a glimpse of hope for those 8k+ threads that I need to work on...
You'd probably gain more from reading the "where you posting from now" thread than this thread ::)

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #808 on: January 24, 2016, 11:08:24 PM »
You'd probably gain more from reading the "where you posting from now" thread than this thread ::)
So true :( there's a lot to learn. But only after reading this :)
Either way, this was more thought provoking.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #809 on: January 25, 2016, 05:04:09 PM »
I would imagine this doesn't happen too often...
Not quite  ;)
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #810 on: May 01, 2016, 04:23:49 AM »
I'm trying to find a fuel dump for a flight I want to book.

When I search my desired flight, YUL->TLV, I find a decent deal on Air France. But when I search Multi-city (with the the third flight being a one-way fuel dump) it no longer finds that decent air france flight to Israel but uses only other airlines.

How can I ensure my added one-way will added to the decent deal I've found?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #811 on: May 01, 2016, 05:43:39 AM »
I'm trying to find a fuel dump for a flight I want to book.

When I search my desired flight, YUL->TLV, I find a decent deal on Air France. But when I search Multi-city (with the the third flight being a one-way fuel dump) it no longer finds that decent air france flight to Israel but uses only other airlines.

How can I ensure my added one-way will added to the decent deal I've found?

You can't.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #812 on: June 29, 2016, 05:04:53 PM »
*A BF's for US-Europe in business (P) has just been cut in half to $500 each way. Currently pricing at $1,997 RT. A one way (EWR-ZRH for example) can be had for $820 with a trick.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #813 on: November 10, 2016, 01:03:29 PM »
From the town of the 'Schiff Shul' to Beijing on the home turf airline for $176 with 3x.
Bookable on PL.
Earns 6,578 *A miles, which when valued at 1.2 makes this trip effectively cost $98.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #814 on: November 10, 2016, 02:02:56 PM »
From the town of the 'Schiff Shul' to Beijing on the home turf airline for $176 with 3x.
Bookable on PL.
When ?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #815 on: November 10, 2016, 02:04:48 PM »

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #816 on: November 11, 2016, 02:20:40 AM »
are there any nyc to tlv flights that allow end on end these days
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #817 on: December 04, 2016, 02:35:03 AM »
are there any nyc to tlv flights that allow end on end these days
yes.
I'm playing with a couple of them. Trying to get more than just 2/3 of the yq off.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #818 on: December 04, 2016, 10:35:53 AM »
yes.
I'm playing with a couple of them. Trying to get more than just 2/3 of the yq off.
Lowest I have is $430. If you find cheaper please post. (With 3x obviously, as a 1x can go down to $198..)

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #819 on: December 04, 2016, 11:14:15 AM »
Lowest I have is $430. If you find cheaper please post. (With 3x obviously, as a 1x can go down to $198..)
Anything in J?
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