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Link to "Trick-it" thread on FT, Good Luck!

Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2015, 05:28:39 AM »
which one ?
you can't figure that out on your own and you plan on finding FDs? 

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2015, 06:25:43 AM »
Something got mesh back here!

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2015, 06:27:48 AM »
Yup time to shut down.
It's not comparable to the trick it thread on FT where tons of routes are discussed, vs. here where its the only FD discussed on the forums on the single most lucrative route which is most flown here and causing all the attention and will be instantly abused and killed.
Specially once MMS gets up and sees this and will give a full tutorial.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #103 on: August 26, 2015, 06:32:32 AM »
Specially once MMS gets up and sees this and will give a full tutorial.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2015, 06:34:30 AM »
Y is this different than FT? I'll tell you
Because Usually when your coding a FD, you don't spell out the cities. You'll either say C1-C2 or codes like sushi, Apple , the lady....
You also don't say the airline I.e. Triangle or the bride

im giving this 2 days until the Bowtie sees it and puts it on his main site.
The mods must have a reason for not shutting this already

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #105 on: August 26, 2015, 06:34:55 AM »
Looks like great minds think alike

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #106 on: August 26, 2015, 06:47:09 AM »
While I want this thread shut, I can understand why Dan doesn't want to.
Dan has zero interest, personal or financial, against people abusing FD's. That's not how he travels. It would only be as a favor to so-called friends who do have what to lose.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #107 on: August 26, 2015, 07:19:16 AM »
While I want this thread shut, I can understand why Dan doesn't want to.
Dan has zero interest, personal or financial, against people abusing FD's. That's not how he travels. It would only be as a favor to so-called friends who do have what to lose.
So those of you who feel that Dan deems you as friends...please speak up to him PRIVATELY.

He requested us NOT to speak about certain subjects at certain times.  Those of us who heard his words respected him.  We are losing out by respecting him.  Those who he respects may want to convey this to him in a RESPECTFUL manner.  Not in public.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #108 on: August 26, 2015, 07:42:14 AM »
You guys crack me up.

You do realize anytime any of you post in a different thread, it gets people attention on this thread, exactly the opposite of what you want....

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #109 on: August 26, 2015, 07:50:42 AM »
You guys crack me up.

You do realize anytime any of you post in a different thread, it gets people attention on this thread, exactly the opposite of what you want....
Just what I was thinking.

Way to not draw attention  ::)
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2015, 07:51:23 AM »
The discussion over share vs don't share is a long one. People have weighed in on both sides. The fact that some people can't see the other side, and RESPECTFULLY disagree, is a real shame.

Either way, should we listen to him?

Someone who swears, insults, gets angry and upset over an opinion that alot of people understand and yet he in his seemingly self centered world doesn't understand? The same person who hasn't been too active in awhile?

Sounds a little chutzpadig to me for someone to have a tichyas hamasim to come back and tell people what to do.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2015, 08:19:35 AM »
Dan, if you haven't yet, can you explain yourself here? Is this just a traffic push?

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #112 on: August 26, 2015, 08:22:07 AM »
It wasn't spelled out completely, so it's a gray line.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2015, 08:22:24 AM »
The discussion over share vs don't share is a long one. People have weighed in on both sides. The fact that some people can't see the other side, and RESPECTFULLY disagree, is a real shame.

Either way, should we listen to him?

Someone who swears, insults, gets angry and upset over an opinion that alot of people understand and yet he in his seemingly self centered world doesn't understand? The same person who hasn't been too active in awhile?

Sounds a little chutzpadig to me for someone to have a tichyas hamasim to come back and tell people what to do.

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He may have said it in a way that you or I never would, however there are MANY people who requested the same thing before him.   

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #114 on: August 26, 2015, 08:32:44 AM »
The OP found this FD, it's up to him to share or not share.
He decided to share it with clues, that's fine with me.

Honestly I think this thread shows how selfish many of the experts & TAs are over here.
No FD is ever shared on this forum by any of these experts, no matter how coded it is.
No helpful info about how to find FDs is shared here either.

These same people are defending the trick it thread on FT, but never post anything about FDs on ddf unless it's criticizing a guy who has all the rights in the world to share everything.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #115 on: August 26, 2015, 08:33:03 AM »
Dan, if you haven't yet, can you explain yourself here? Is this just a traffic push?
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #116 on: August 26, 2015, 08:46:55 AM »
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...
#meshisgone

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #117 on: August 26, 2015, 08:51:27 AM »
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...
Just out of curiosity.
What happened in this thread http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=41814.msg821513.msg#821513

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #118 on: August 26, 2015, 08:52:10 AM »
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...
I would compare a thread like this to one that talks about churning credit cards. They're both not "violating" rules, but we don't want them to get killed so we request to get the thread deleted. The only difference is, for credit cards you have a personal interest in the fact of them closing it down as opposed to this you don't care as much. 
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2015, 08:52:19 AM »
just an fyi but you people complaining make it even easier to figure the whole thing out. FD was never mentioned in the original thread. What FD stood for was mentioned much later in the thread by someone complaining and saying its dead. Then people say its all over some blogs. All you complainers just made it much bigger then it could have been.