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Link to "Trick-it" thread on FT, Good Luck!

Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #540 on: August 31, 2015, 04:46:36 PM »
OTA... ( but im a just beginner )
reason?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #541 on: August 31, 2015, 04:56:57 PM »
reason?

That what it said in " part 3" of the wiki

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #542 on: August 31, 2015, 05:02:48 PM »
That what it said in " part 3" of the wiki
its actually in part 2 but he's referring to the fact that its hard to replicate the itinerary in an airline website i was referring to an itinerary that can be replicated onto the airlines website so my question still stands
is it safer to book a tricked out fare on an OTA or on the airlines website

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #543 on: August 31, 2015, 05:14:59 PM »
Who bumped this thread?... >:(

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #544 on: August 31, 2015, 05:15:51 PM »

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #545 on: August 31, 2015, 06:15:57 PM »
its actually in part 2 but he's referring to the fact that its hard to replicate the itinerary in an airline website i was referring to an itinerary that can be replicated onto the airlines website so my question still stands
Good diyuk. I'm a beginner too but I would say OTA is still better. Less chance of airline noticing and cancelling.
Could be wrong though

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #546 on: August 31, 2015, 06:19:58 PM »
I hope I'm not giving away any company secrets now. (CM the problem with finding out stuff myself, idk what's a secret. So if it's easily searchable, I deem it postable.) There is a great list on Wikipedia of flights <100 mi... Could be useful.
 I know pineapple hop/13 miler and others are on that list

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #547 on: August 31, 2015, 08:02:56 PM »
Good diyuk. I'm a beginner too but I would say OTA is still better. Less chance of airline noticing and cancelling.
Could be wrong though

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Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #548 on: August 31, 2015, 10:05:23 PM »
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Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #549 on: August 31, 2015, 11:05:55 PM »
I hope I'm not giving away any company secrets now. (CM the problem with finding out stuff myself, idk what's a secret. So if it's easily searchable, I deem it postable.) There is a great list on Wikipedia of flights <100 mi... Could be useful.
 I know pineapple hop/13 miler and others are on that list
Do you mean Pineapple Poke?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #550 on: September 01, 2015, 12:15:31 AM »
(CM the problem with finding out stuff myself, idk what's a secret. So if it's easily searchable, I deem it postable.)
You missed the point. Once you learn how to fish you don't just give the fish away.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #551 on: September 01, 2015, 12:26:08 AM »
Isn't there enough fish in the ocean for everyone?
 I look at this whole " no spoonfeeding " attitude as selfish and snobby. I hate it. What does it matter if you had to work hard to figure it out so should I ? Will you feel better if will work hard for it too ??  Stupid attitudes

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #552 on: September 01, 2015, 12:34:21 AM »
Isn't there enough fish in the ocean for everyone?
I look at this whole " no spoonfeeding " attitude as selfish and snobby. I hate it. What does it matter if you had to work hard to figure it out so should I ? Will you feel better if will work hard for it too ??  Stupid attitudes
I sure hope you don't have kids with that attitude.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #553 on: September 01, 2015, 12:38:02 AM »
Not sure what you are trying to say. But if my kids were trying to accomplish something ,I would help them and show them how to do it the right way. I would not say. Sorry we had to walk to school uphill both ways so you have to do that too. If I knew a shortcut or a better way i  will share it with " EVERYONE "

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #554 on: September 01, 2015, 12:42:06 AM »
Not sure what you are trying to say. But if my kids were trying to accomplish something ,I would help them and show them how to do it the right way.
So you teach your kids to fish instead of just giving them the fish?
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #555 on: September 01, 2015, 12:43:17 AM »
So you teach your kids to fish instead of just giving them the fish?
Teach him to fish or make him guess how to fish?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #556 on: September 01, 2015, 12:43:46 AM »

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #557 on: September 01, 2015, 12:44:48 AM »
Not with the attitude like people give here.

Btw I hope people see the "codes" in this conversation. If not. Sorry, can't "spoonfeed" you,  gify

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #558 on: September 01, 2015, 12:45:41 AM »
Isn't there enough fish in the ocean for everyone?
 I look at this whole " no spoonfeeding " attitude as selfish and snobby. I hate it. What does it matter if you had to work hard to figure it out so should I ? Will you feel better if will work hard for it too ??  Stupid attitudes

Actually, there aren't enough fish in the ocean. If you looked at the best 3x's, you would've seen that too many bookings would kill it in short order.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #559 on: September 01, 2015, 12:45:46 AM »
Teach him to fish or make him guess how to fish?
He just doesn't tell them what fish is. Then they won't mess up the fishing spots and there will be more fish for fishermen who figured out how to fish on their own 😉