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Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Author Topic: Trick-It Master Thread  (Read 184360 times)

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #880 on: September 19, 2017, 08:40:29 PM »
which fare classes?
So far I only see it on an OTA. It's not on matrix.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #881 on: September 19, 2017, 08:45:10 PM »
So far I only see it on an OTA. It's not on matrix.
gotcha, thanks

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #882 on: January 26, 2018, 11:40:51 AM »
 I see some potentially good candidate fares on TK and AF for C1 to C2.5. TK allows EOE and Side trips but cant seem to find a viable 3x. Any hints? Pls pm. AF allows limited EOE but no Side trips, but when I add a potential 3x (that doesnt fit the parameters of the EOE limitation), the yq still drops by about $100. Any way to trim more fat? Any hints on what is triggering these and how to work it?
Fare rules for AF
1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN PAR/AMS/
      ROM.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
   MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES
    WITHIN CANADA. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
    NOT PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AC/WS/AF/KL/DL/AZ/VS
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
     MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
     MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
   PROVIDED -
     THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
     -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3
      -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3
       COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/KL/AF/
     AZ/VS IN RULE CA1P/CA3P/2222/4444 IN TARIFF
      ATDLR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/KL/AF/AZ/
     VS IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      OR RULE CA1P/CA3P IN TARIFF
      TAPVCR  - BETWEEN CA/US-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF
      TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/KL/AF/AZ/
     VS IN RULE CA1P/CA3P/2222/4444 IN TARIFF
      ATDLR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/KL/AF/AZ/
     VS IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      OR RULE CA1P/CA3P IN TARIFF
      TAPVCR  - BETWEEN CA/US-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF
      TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.



Fare rules for TK
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
      DIRECTION
     LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 65.00.
       1 FREE IN TURKEY
       1 IN TURKEY AT USD 65.00.
  OR - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
           DIRECTION
          LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 65.00.
            NONE IN TURKEY
            1 FREE IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3
            1 IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3 AT USD 65.00.
CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
   APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
   MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES WITHIN THE
    UNITED STATES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
    PERMITTED.
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH TK DOMESTIC/
    INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE
    TRIPS PERMITTED.
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH TK
    FARES
 
   

   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER TK IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.


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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #883 on: January 29, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
I miss AB

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #884 on: January 29, 2018, 12:02:50 PM »
I miss AB
Did they have big YQ to trim?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #885 on: January 29, 2018, 12:29:34 PM »
Did they have big YQ to trim?
NYC-TLV RT was in the $300 range for the last while before they went under...


A 3x dumped 100%

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #886 on: January 29, 2018, 05:57:59 PM »
NYC-TLV RT was in the $300 range for the last while before they went under...


A 3x dumped 100%
Wow! That would have been nice to know. I guess not too much lost when you get such a ticket and the airline goes insolvent.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #887 on: May 15, 2018, 01:06:08 AM »
Why is this thread so quiet?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #888 on: May 15, 2018, 01:14:14 AM »
Why is this thread so quiet?
Those who say don't know, those who know don't say.
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #889 on: May 15, 2018, 01:55:08 AM »
Those who say don't know, those who know don't say.
You can hint if you don't want to say, or you can just PM  ;)

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #890 on: May 15, 2018, 01:56:43 AM »
You can hint if you don't want to say, or you can just PM  ;)
I have nothing to share even if I wanted to.
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #891 on: May 15, 2018, 01:58:44 AM »
I have nothing to share even if I wanted to.
Its a shame...
Wasn't talking just to you, I would've PM'd if that was the case

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #892 on: July 02, 2018, 02:45:06 PM »
Everyone's favourite route is now $419.42 RT bookable on PL.


Simple 3x.


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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #893 on: July 02, 2018, 02:59:20 PM »
Dates?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #894 on: July 02, 2018, 03:29:20 PM »

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #895 on: July 02, 2018, 03:33:41 PM »
Thanks.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #896 on: July 02, 2018, 06:09:22 PM »
Everyone's favourite route is now $419.42 RT bookable on PL.


Simple 3x.


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Which is?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #897 on: July 02, 2018, 06:24:38 PM »
Everyone's favourite route is now $419.42 RT bookable on PL.


Simple 3x.


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Findable on ITA?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #898 on: July 02, 2018, 06:24:55 PM »
Which is?
PMs won't be answered, but all beans will be publicly spilled. ::)
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #899 on: July 03, 2018, 03:10:14 AM »
Everyone's favourite route is now $419.42 RT bookable on PL.


Simple 3x.


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definitely can use one for Yarchei Kallah.
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