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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
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As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Who are you voting for?

Clinton
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Trump
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Johnson
2 (1.7%)
Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 291971 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11775 on: March 17, 2017, 12:52:21 PM »
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11776 on: March 17, 2017, 02:14:41 PM »

Isnt Sesame Street owned by and played on HBO these days? First run episodes are not on PBS anymore.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11777 on: March 20, 2017, 08:27:05 AM »
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11778 on: March 20, 2017, 08:51:39 AM »
Is there a North Korea thread?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11779 on: March 20, 2017, 06:12:15 PM »
Is there a North Korea thread?
Would we know the difference between two nutcases?  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11780 on: March 21, 2017, 01:21:22 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/medicaid-is-free-so-why-does-it-require-a-mandate-1489529946

That brings us back to the AHCA. According to the CBO, able-bodied adults on Medicaid receive about $6,000 a year in government health-insurance benefits. They pay no premiums and minimal copays. You’d think that eligible individuals would need no prodding to sign up for such a benefit.
And yet, according to its analysis of the GOP ObamaCare replacement, the CBO believes that there are five million Americans who wouldn’t sign up for Medicaid if it weren’t for ObamaCare’s individual mandate. You read that right: Five million people need the threat of a $695 fine to sign up for a free program that offers them $6,000 worth of subsidized health insurance. That’s more than 1 in 5 of the 24 million people the CBO (dubiously) claims would end up uninsured if the AHCA supplanted ObamaCare.
On its face, there’s reason to doubt the CBO’s view. The mandate is enforced through the income-tax system, and enforcement of the mandate has been spotty for those in low tax brackets. Many of those eligible for Medicaid don’t work or file returns. Under rules established by the Obama administration, those who do can leave the “I have insurance” box blank and face no penalty.
Still, it’s remarkable that the CBO believes people need to be fined into signing up for Medicaid. That tells us something about the CBO’s assessment of Medicaid’s value to those individuals—and it buttresses the GOP’s case that Medicaid needs substantial reform.
Pre-existing conditions.

I just can't wrap my simple mind around this: how can healthcare be made more affordable if insurers are required to accept pre-existing conditions ESPECIALLY without the individual mandate?

And how can we continue to call it insurance? I can't purchase auto insurance after I wreck my car or renter's insurance after I get robbed or life insurance after I die.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11781 on: March 21, 2017, 07:35:16 AM »
Pre-existing conditions.

I just can't wrap my simple mind around this: how can healthcare be made more affordable if insurers are required to accept pre-existing conditions ESPECIALLY without the individual mandate?

And how can we continue to call it insurance? I can't purchase auto insurance after I wreck my car or renter's insurance after I get robbed or life insurance after I die.
It cannot. ACA was Obama's attempt at forcing European style single payer healthcare.  He may have succeeded.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11782 on: March 21, 2017, 07:45:26 AM »
Pre-existing conditions.

I just can't wrap my simple mind around this: how can healthcare be made more affordable if insurers are required to accept pre-existing conditions ESPECIALLY without the individual mandate?

And how can we continue to call it insurance? I can't purchase auto insurance after I wreck my car or renter's insurance after I get robbed or life insurance after I die.
I fully agree although I am not sure what it has to do with the article I quoted. Maybe it is just that it is about Obamacare.

Once coverage in time of need is a right not a purchased product the only solution is forced coverage.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11783 on: March 21, 2017, 11:19:55 AM »
Any good articles/resources that explain the current plan/s to replace Obamacare?
Haven't been keeping up.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11784 on: March 21, 2017, 11:23:29 AM »
Once coverage in time of need is a right not a purchased product the only solution is forced coverage.

And then you​ can't call it insurance anymore.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11785 on: March 21, 2017, 11:43:48 AM »
And then you​ can't call it insurance anymore.
correct.

If we are considering coverage for catastrophic illness a right then the only options will be either mandatory catastrophic coverage or some level of socialized medicine for catastrophic coverage. The biggest issue I have with Obamacare is the way it mandates coverage for minor illness including micromanaging what every policy must cover. I do think that a level of socialized catastrophic coverage may be appropriate but that would depend a lot on the nitty gritty.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11786 on: March 21, 2017, 12:11:10 PM »
The biggest issue I have with Obamacare is the way it mandates coverage for minor illness including micromanaging what every policy must cover.

That is a direct outcome of the mandate. If you make a mandate that everyone has to be covered by insurance, then you have to define what is considered covered.

I do think that a level of socialized catastrophic coverage may be appropriate but that would depend a lot on the nitty gritty.

Which we kind of have, with the law that emergency rooms can't turn people away.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11787 on: March 21, 2017, 12:22:34 PM »
That is a direct outcome of the mandate. If you make a mandate that everyone has to be covered by insurance, then you have to define what is considered covered.
But it does not have to mandate coverage for a sneeze. Of course when there is a mandate it needs to have guidelines. The question is how you make them.

Which we kind of have, with the law that emergency rooms can't turn people away.
Not really since someone who takes advantage of that will get treated but will be bankrupt. It is also just aout the most inefficient way to cover them.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11788 on: March 22, 2017, 12:50:57 AM »
Is there a North Korea thread?
Gonna be needing that asap

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #11789 on: March 22, 2017, 03:14:43 PM »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/03/mark_levin_the_real_scandal_is_that_obama_spied_on_trump_during_2016_campaign.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-22/nunes-says-trump-team-communications-caught-in-u-s-surveillance

Obama spied on Trump team.
Absolutely shocking.

(In case you're wondering what is legal about the spying- Obama can legally surveil anyone, the NSA/CIA already collects everyone's information. The scandal is what is done with that information after it is collected, it's supposed to be kept confidential unless there's a warrant.)
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