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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
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As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3771292 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20340 on: May 09, 2018, 01:51:16 PM »
...and now we are left with Putin helping terrorist countries.
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/charles_de_gaulle_379735

Seems like Netanyahu knows how to deal with Putin.

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Are you saying more middle eastern countries getting the bomb is a positive step.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patience_is_a_virtue

Or as they say in that part of the world:

أَلْعَجَلَة مِنَ الشَّيْطَان

Or in a more commonly understood language around here:
אַ נאַר טאָר מען קיין האַלבע אַרבעט נישט ווײַזן (see here for translation)
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20341 on: May 09, 2018, 02:52:27 PM »
After Kerry's stupidity there wasn't much of a chance that Trump would stay in the agreement.
I actually don't think the decision to leave was cemented by Kerry (although I'm astonished by his efforts to undermine the administration).

This was Trump's opinion all along, along with most of his current national security advisors.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20342 on: May 09, 2018, 03:00:45 PM »
That is not an answer to my question and is a straw man argument.  Have a nice day.

 Does anyone else understand those defending the Iran deal?
I'll take a stab at explaining their POV.

The consensus of experts was that the inspection regime put into place by JPOCA was rigorous enough to deter any efforts to a bomb.

So we're going from breakout <1yr to >10yr.

As well, the interceding decade, with the resulting trade and admittance to the family of nations will work to moderate Iran's desire for the bomb.

Altogether, we gain time and a chance for other factors to kick in.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20343 on: May 09, 2018, 03:12:45 PM »
I'll take a stab at explaining their POV.

The consensus of experts was that the inspection regime put into place by JPOCA was rigorous enough to deter any efforts to a bomb.

So we're going from breakout <1yr to >10yr.

As well, the interceding decade, with the resulting trade and admittance to the family of nations will work to moderate Iran's desire for the bomb.

Altogether, we gain time and a chance for other factors too kick in.

What do the experts know that enable them to ensure that Iran isn't developing nuclear bombs as sites they don't have access to?

Regarding the moderation of Iran, naivety can explain how they thought that when they signed but how can they not admit that in hindsight they were wrong?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20344 on: May 09, 2018, 03:39:05 PM »
Russia gives half a million to Cohen. I wonder why? 😂
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20345 on: May 09, 2018, 03:43:54 PM »
Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment IV (4)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20346 on: May 09, 2018, 03:45:30 PM »
Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment IV (4)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20347 on: May 09, 2018, 04:05:23 PM »
Russia gives half a million to Cohen. I wonder why? 😂
Add over another million for just one meeting from another company. Sanders refuses to answer any questions on what Trump knew about this.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20348 on: May 09, 2018, 04:09:51 PM »


What do the experts know that enable them to ensure that Iran isn't developing nuclear bombs as sites they don't have access to?
If I recall correctly, there were no sites that were off limits, only time constraints.

Add to that the half life of uranium, and other factors, the consensus was that it was acceptable (and actually the most rigorous inspection regime in history).


Regarding the moderation of Iran, naivety can explain how they thought that when they signed but how can they not admit that in hindsight they were wrong?

I think that this is the most open to interpretation.

You and I agree, Trump and Netanyahu agree, Obama, Kerry, and Biden don't.

The question is, if the inspection regime is good, why abandon it instead of just reopening negotiations regarding the other issues?

(Once again, I might agree with you and Trump, but let's not pretend that everyone on the other side is a hidden Iranian.)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20349 on: May 09, 2018, 04:16:24 PM »
Trump gets rid of McMaster and Tillerson who were in favor of staying in the deal and replaced both of them with individuals who agree with him. This is very dangerous for the country for him to surround himself only with individuals that agree with him.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20350 on: May 09, 2018, 04:26:29 PM »
If I recall correctly, there were no sites that were off limits, only time constraints.

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https://en.mehrnews.com/news/131234/Iran-military-sites-off-limits-for-IAEA-inspections
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/15/548957/iran-us-military-site-kamalvandi
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I think that this is the most open to interpretation.

You and I agree, Trump and Netanyahu agree, Obama, Kerry, and Biden don't.

The question is, if the inspection regime is good, why abandon it instead of just reopening negotiations regarding the other issues?

(Once again, I might agree with you and Trump, but let's not pretend that everyone on the other side is a hidden Iranian.)

What's open to interpretation, whether or not Iran's gotten more moderate and supported less terror since the deal was signed?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20352 on: May 09, 2018, 06:07:00 PM »


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https://en.mehrnews.com/news/131234/Iran-military-sites-off-limits-for-IAEA-inspections
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/15/548957/iran-us-military-site-kamalvandi
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/15/c_136895447.htm
You do realize those are basically the Iranian statements, not the actual agreement, right?



What's open to interpretation, whether or not Iran's gotten more moderate and supported less terror since the deal was signed?
Correct, have they gotten worse since the deal, considering the Beirut barracks, Hezbollah, etc. all happened in the years before the deal.

This is open to interpretation.

Regardless, let's say they've gotten worse (based on what, I'm not quite sure), if the deal does push back breakout for a decade, isn't that worth it? Doesn't it give us another decade to deal with Iran?

This, I believe, is the POV of the deal supporters.

While you and I disagree with it, pretending that they're hidden supporters of Iran is intellectually dishonest.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20354 on: May 09, 2018, 08:42:28 PM »
Russia gives half a million to Cohen. I wonder why? 😂
Add over another million for just one meeting from another company. Sanders refuses to answer any questions on what Trump knew about this.
We are now at over 2mm and counting. How high can it go? I wonder if Hannity will talk about this?  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20355 on: May 09, 2018, 08:52:00 PM »
Here it is in black and white. If you say something negative against Trump he automatically says it is fake.

The Fake News is working overtime. Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20356 on: May 10, 2018, 10:52:24 AM »
I guess the apple doesn't fall from the tree. At least his wife isn't pregnant. I guess that is an improvement.  ::)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20357 on: May 10, 2018, 11:03:38 AM »
I guess the apple doesn't fall from the tree. At least his wife isn't pregnant. I guess that is an improvement.  ::)
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That is miles ahead of a porn star.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20358 on: May 10, 2018, 11:19:39 AM »
That is miles ahead of a porn star.
I am speechless.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #20359 on: May 10, 2018, 11:24:24 AM »
I am speechless.
“A man's s***** choice is the result and the sum of his fundamental convictions.Tell me what a man finds s******y attractive and I will tell you his entire philosophy of life. Show me the women he sleeps with and I will tell you his valuation of himself. ... He will always be attracted to the woman who reflects his deepest vision of himself, the woman whose surrender permits him to experience a sense of self-esteem. The man who is proudly certain of his own value, will want the highest type of woman he can find, the woman he admires, the strongest, the hardest to conquer--because only the possession of a heroine will give him the sense of an achievement, not the possession of a brainless slut.......But the man who is convinced of his own worthlessness will be drawn to a women he despises -- because she will reflect his own secret self.”

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