Author Topic: Rabbi Berland's Trip report  (Read 10072 times)

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2015, 04:04:32 PM »
We know there have been proven false accusation in the Catholic Church where the accuser came clean. That is a very small percentage of those accused and convicted.
I'm general, a very small percentage of liars admit to it, especially if they had a compelling reason to lie and there will be extreme repercussions from coming clean. That doesn't mean anything. The state doesn't exactly encourage coming clean either, and you don't want to do things that the state doesn't like. Bad things can happen. Just ask anyone with experience with the legal system.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2015, 04:48:01 PM »
We know there have been proven false accusation in the Catholic Church where the accuser came clean. That is a very small percentage of those accused and convicted.
Rabbi Berel Wein loves saying: They tell stories about the Chofetz Chaim and they tell stories about Richard Nixon. The stories they tell though, are of a different sort for each of them. In this case, no one knows, but they arent chasing all rabbis...just this one, and a few other miscreants and charlatans. Methinks where there is smoke, usually there is fire...or at least decent BBQ.

And for all those who yell about "corruption" and "holding innocent people", a little primer on Israeli Law would be in order.
1. You are NOT presumed innocent until proven gulity.
2. If the police charges you, you are presumed guilty.
3. Ottoman Turk Law and English Law are the bases of the present Israeli legal system.
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2015, 05:31:44 PM »
Just because I am paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get me.
I like saying it the other way too though : just because they're out to get you doesn't mean you're not paranoid

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2015, 05:37:53 PM »


And for all those who yell about "corruption" and "holding innocent people", a little primer on Israeli Law would be in order.
1. You are NOT presumed innocent until proven gulity.
2. If the police charges you, you are presumed guilty.
3. Ottoman Turk Law and English Law are the bases of the present Israeli legal system.
You are saying that there is a good reason to run, whether innocent or guilty.

Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2015, 05:45:50 PM »
I thought it was tax problems. Am I totally off?

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2015, 05:52:31 PM »
You are saying that there is a good reason to run, whether innocent or guilty.
I'm saying its NEVER a good idea to run. All convicted felons please feel free to chime in on this one.  ;D

I'm also saying that judging the Israeli legal system based on ones experiences and knowledge of the American legal system may lead one to believe that the system is corrupt etc. When in fact it is just a diametrically different system than the one we may be used to.

I thought it was tax problems. Am I totally off?
Al Capone also had a tax problem.  ::)
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2015, 05:55:29 PM »
I thought it was tax problems. Am I totally off?
yup

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2015, 06:02:13 PM »
I thought it was tax problems. Am I totally off?
Big time.

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2015, 06:30:04 PM »
When's the new Bill Cosby album coming out?

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2015, 06:48:23 PM »
When's the new Bill Cosby album coming out?
Didn't know they will have collectible cards of all his victims to fill an album.  ::)
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2015, 06:52:20 PM »
When's the new Bill Cosby album coming out?
Is the Rabbi going to join in?
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2015, 09:52:58 PM »
The story of the Rabbi in sefad seems to be really bad but the story of the Rabbi in London didn't turn out to be as big as they made it so go figure.

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2017, 03:14:47 PM »
Rabbi Berland permitted to visit Uman - for a price

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235660


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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2017, 08:44:23 AM »
Seems like he's en-route (with lots of security).

What happens in Uman, stays in Uman. Lets see what happens....

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2017, 08:49:26 AM »
He is only under house arrest for another 14 days. It would be insane for him to do anything, but perhaps he likes the attention
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2017, 09:53:19 AM »
He is only under house arrest for another 14 days. It would be insane for him to do anything, but perhaps he likes the attention

I'm not talking about him doing anything

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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2017, 11:36:20 AM »
Seems like he's en-route (with lots of security).

What happens in Uman, stays in Uman. Lets see what happens....


Years ago I helped with his security teams logistics, landing rights etc - but this year the team seriously injured a close friend of mine (who just happened to be walking down Pushkina as the convoy was making it's way through the crowds. I lost all respect for them and no longer answer any of their calls.)

I don't understand how the severity of violence meted out to innocent bystanders is suddenly a metric by which one's fame is measured.
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Re: Rabbi Berland's Trip report
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2023, 09:59:00 AM »
I saw @yfar bachur posted about his shul in the ""Off-the-beaten path in Yerushalayim" thread. Some truly wacky sights to see over there. Just be careful not to say anything against him while there, or you might not make it out...
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