Would you feel safe traveling on an Arab airline to an Arab country???

[David Smith]

Wow, that's almost as extreme as D93's view.
Anything else?

That's not extreme from an Islamophobia perspective; maybe from a priorities in shidduchim perspective.

[benjie1305]

I just read the title, but how is this thread different then this?

[Tom Brady]

To wait until you're past thinking about that question before starting.

I can't tell if you're joking or if that's your serious opinion. It seems like a lot of people here wish their wives were a lot more easygoing about going to a lot of places. Obviously that's not among the top qualities I want in a girl, but as I enjoy going to these places, it's definitely among them. If I can marry a girl with all of the important qualities I want, as well as this one, why wouldn't I?

[Freddie]

Good question. I've been debating what would be the best way to go about it. What would you advise?

I would advise marrying a Persian or Syrian Jewish girl. Her father will probably also be seriously loaded. Although they will probably be racist against you and not even consider the shiduch even if you are an MD (for the Persian) or a real estate developer (for the Syrian.)

[Tom Brady]

I would advise marrying a Persian or Syrian Jewish girl. Her father will probably also be seriously loaded. Although they will probably be racist against you and not even consider the shiduch even if you are an MD (for the Persian) or a real estate developer (for the Syrian.)

Why can't a serious question be met with a serious answer on these forums?

[Emkay]

Obviously that's not among the top qualities I want in a girl, but as I enjoy going to these places, it's definitely among them.

Have you read what you wrote?
Care to expound on this riddle?

[benjie1305]

Have you read what you wrote?
Care to expound on this riddle?

He is looking for a girl that is not opposed flying through Arab countries so he can fly premium cabin on Gulf carriers.

[Emkay]

He is looking for a girl that is not opposed flying through Arab countries so he can fly premium cabin on Gulf carriers.

I'm specifically referring to the part I quoted.
Forget it, I'll stop being a grammar nazi

[Tom Brady]

Have you read what you wrote?
Care to expound on this riddle?

It's not one of the TOP qualities that I will look for in a girl, but it's definitely among the qualities.

[Tom Brady]

He is looking for a girl that is not opposed flying through Arab countries so he can fly premium cabin on Gulf carriers.

Yes, and to actually go to arab countries as a destination as well. For example, so far I have never been on anything better than a domestic premium cabin on a gulf carrier, yet I've been to 5 arab countries in the middle east, as destinations.

[Emkay]

Yes, and to actually go to arab countries as a destination as well. For example, so far I have never been on anything better than a domestic premium cabin on a gulf carrier, yet I've been to 5 arab countries in the middle east, as destinations.

May be better to get it out of your system now so your not disappointed

[D93]

I have no issue going to most of these places and neither does my wife, that being said i cant wait till some of the single guys who are bashing those who dont want to go, get married to the most islamiphobia wife and start singing a very different tune. on second thought im gonna save some of their quotes to rub it in later 

There's a reason why I'm doing my Arab country touring now during (hopefully) the last few months that I'm single.
For better or for worse, when I get married Arab countries will most likely become a thing of the past. I'm not saying I agree with the logic, but fact is fact, a lot of people in the world (and even more so by Jews) have Islamiphobia.

[sammy n]

There's a reason why I'm doing my Arab country touring now during (hopefully) the last few months that I'm single.
For better or for worse, when I get married Arab countries will most likely become a thing of the past. I'm not saying I agree with the logic, but fact is fact, a lot of people in the world (and even more so by Jews) have Islamiphobia.

What if your wife doesn't have Islamiphobia, then you'll go to all these places again?

[D93]

What if your wife doesn't have Islamiphobia, then you'll go to all these places again?

I'd consider it.
But seriously, why is this even a discussion. Is marriage based on what and where your wife will fly? If you answered yes to this question, you definitely should seek help ASAP, and a lot more than just pills and psychological help.

[sammy n]

I'd consider it.
But seriously, why is this even a discussion. Is marriage based on what and where your wife will fly? If you answered yes to this question, you definitely should seek help ASAP, and a lot more than just pills and psychological help.

For you it seems to be a big thing and I'm sure you've thought about it more then once. So just figured I ask what you came out with it either way. Simple.

[D93]

For you it seems to be a big thing and I'm sure you've thought about it more then once. So just figured I ask what you came out with it either way. Simple.

Well, I guess you know my answer now.

[D93]

It's not one of the TOP qualities that I will look for in a girl, but it's definitely among the qualities.

Is a clean credit report and high credit score also a "quality" you want?!  

(Do yourself a favor and don't answer this question in public)

[Emkay]

fact is fact, a lot of people in the world (and even more so by Jews) have Islamiphobia.

on a separate totally unrelated note, imagine someone whos village is plagued by poisonous snakes, affecting many aspects of his life. These are a dangerous species that looks like all others and has caused much harm to the world and is the lead source of death from all animals, so much so that he personally knows people who were killed by this snake. If this man decides not to venture into a snake den that possibly holds this snake would you consider him an Ophidiophobia? and if he does in fact have Ophidiophobia or even herpetophobia is that not somewhat justified?

[benjie1305]

There's a reason why I'm doing my Arab country touring now during (hopefully) the last few months that I'm single.
For better or for worse, when I get married Arab countries will most likely become a thing of the past. I'm not saying I agree with the logic, but fact is fact, a lot of people in the world (and even more so by Jews) have Islamiphobia.

MT!MT! 

[Tom Brady]

Is a clean credit report and high credit score also a "quality" you want?!  

(Do yourself a favor and don't answer this question in public)

Finally got the time to write up an answer

Of course they are not. But that is completely different. I don't think of a clean credit report as a quality in a person, the same way I don't think that a person having wealthy parents is a quality in a person.

Being comfortable about traveling to arab countries on the other hand is entirely different. I think it's a good thing about a person if they look into a situation logically, and make a decision based on that, rather than being stubborn and making decisions based on how they always assumed things were. When I was younger, and before I looked into it, I assumed all arab countries were dangerous and I wouldn't have agreed to travel to any of them. Recently, from what I've looked into about traveling to many of the milder arab countries, it seems it's just as safe, if not safer than traveling in the U.S. or Israel (for example Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain have among the lowest murder rates in the entire world). That is why I have no problem traveling to them. Obviously something can happen there, but something can happen anywhere. If you determine that something doesn't seem significantly more dangerous than living your everyday life, and still "danger" determines why you wouldn't do that, then I think you aren't being logical.

Anyway, while I do think it is a "quality" in a person to be open minded, that is not what I meant when I implied that being willing to go to Arab countries was a quality. I didn't mean "quality" as in a positive attribute that everyone should have, and look for in a person. I meant a personal upside for me if my wife is happy traveling to arab countries, the same way an avid skier would like if his wife enjoyed skiing as well, instead of being too afraid to try it. (I think it should be obvious that this is what I meant).

Don't get me wrong, I agree that being willing to go to Arab countries is not nearly important enough to be anywhere near a determining factor in deciding if I will or will not marry someone. The only case I can think of where this can possibly be relevant is if two shidduch suggestions are made to me, and it is not clear which one is better suited for me to go out with. If I then find out that one of them had been to Egypt, that would tip the scale. (This is a completely theoretical case as I don't know how shidduch dating works).