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1.  there / their / they're
2.  a vs. an
3.  went vs. have gone
4. It's vs. Its
5. Affect vs. Effect
6.  Capital vs Capitol

• Commas go before the space, like this, not like ,this .
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Author Topic: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101  (Read 3571 times)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2017, 07:48:14 AM »
letter sounds something like “le-uh”
And Manhattan sound like "Man-ha-un"?

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2017, 08:35:34 AM »
Brits pronounce their 'T's.  Americans have a rule that changes some 'T's into 'D's:
 
[t]-->[d]/ vowel __ unaccented vowel (where '__' means the context)

letter
later
batting
riveting

but not before an accented vowel:
attention
competition


What do you mean silent?  Examples?
"whatever"
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2017, 03:41:14 PM »
And Manhattan sound like "Man-ha-un"?
More like "Man-ha-in"

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2017, 06:14:07 PM »
letter sounds something like “le-uh”
Ah.  You're all talking about the Cockney accent.  This started as a geographical accent, but has become more widespread in different parts of London.  An American using that type of speech would qualify for speech therapy, but theirs is a standard accent so it is acceptable.

They have 'f' for 'th', 'v' for 'TH', 'w' for 'l' ('towow' for towel), drop their final 'g's in 'ing' endings (readin'), drop their initial 'h's (orse), drop their final 'r's, AND drop their 't' and 'k's in the middle of words (Mana-an, wha-evuh for whatever, le-uh for letter). 

They also use what we would call grammatical errors, BUT they have a really cool rhyme based slang.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2017, 07:02:31 PM »


They also use what we would call grammatical errors, BUT they have a really cool rhyme based slang.



Such as "trouble and strife" for "wife".

@srap Are you an English teachah or sumfin'?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2017, 08:24:10 PM »
Such as "trouble and strife" for "wife".

@srap Are you an English teachah or sumfin'?
Hey--you're pretty good at it!  I just love info and details. 

It gets challenging for outsiders when they decide to have fun.  The real slangy Cockney slang only uses the first word of the pair. 
Take a sherbet down the frog with your dustbin skin wearing her new syrup on her loaf, along with your cows, to the light.

(Ex.  Since 'frog and toad' mean 'road', you have to understand that in witty Cockney slang, 'frog' means 'road'!)

Here is one in regular Cockney:  Some lump of ice: Don't be a lump of school and tumble down the sink any satin and silk as you go up the apples and pears to get the basin of gravy. 
Anyone want to guess at this without looking up the answer?

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #111 on: December 07, 2017, 10:26:25 AM »
Recognizing reality helps keep the expectations of both sides realistic. A false illusion that Jerusalem as the capitol is negotiable doesn't.
Capital and Capitol. Know the difference.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #112 on: December 07, 2017, 10:58:39 AM »
Capital and Capitol. Know the difference.
Next lesson, thank you.

CAPITAL vs CAPITOL

Hint:  Always spell capitAl unless you are talking about a building, then capitOl.

Capital:  a city, a letter of the alphabet, wealth
Capitol:  a building (in which a state legislature meets)
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #113 on: December 07, 2017, 12:09:31 PM »
Hey--you're pretty good at it!  I just love info and details. 

It gets challenging for outsiders when they decide to have fun.  The real slangy Cockney slang only uses the first word of the pair. 
Take a sherbet down the frog with your dustbin skin wearing her new syrup on her loaf, along with your cows, to the light.

(Ex.  Since 'frog and toad' mean 'road', you have to understand that in witty Cockney slang, 'frog' means 'road'!)

Here is one in regular Cockney:  Some lump of ice: Don't be a lump of school and tumble down the sink any satin and silk as you go up the apples and pears to get the basin of gravy. 
Anyone want to guess at this without looking up the answer?

Coming from London, I'd venture to say that there aren't too many people under 45 who still speak real Cockney. The Cockney accent? Definitely. Think of Jason Statham. But the rhyming part? Not really.
Brevity may be the soul of wit, but floridity is its spirit.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #114 on: December 07, 2017, 09:04:40 PM »
Some lump of ice: Don't be a lump of school and tumble down the sink any satin and silk as you go up the apples and pears to get the basin of gravy. 
Anyone want to guess at this without looking up the answer?

A piece of advice: Don't be a fool and spill the milk as you go up the stairs to get the bowl of cereal?
Brevity may be the soul of wit, but floridity is its spirit.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #115 on: December 07, 2017, 10:04:00 PM »
...Here is one in regular Cockney: 
Some lump of ice: Don't be a lump of school and tumble down the sink any satin and silk as you go up the apples and pears to get the basin of gravy. 

Anyone want to guess at this without looking up the answer?

A piece of advice: Don't be a fool and spill the milk as you go up the stairs to get the bowl of cereal?
Real close!

Some advice: Don't be a fool and drink any milk as you go up the stairs to get the _____.    (last phrase is their slang, but misarticulated!)