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LESSONS

1.  there / their / they're
2.  a vs. an
3.  went vs. have gone
4. It's vs. Its
5. Affect vs. Effect

• Commas go before the space, like this, not like ,this .

Author Topic: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101  (Read 2201 times)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2016, 10:31:23 AM »
One of my pet peeves:

Don't say "I should have went" or "should have came".

It's "should have gone" or "should have come".

@srap maybe you can quantify this
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2016, 10:32:04 AM »
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I like vanilla but my name is Venilla.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 10:40:10 AM »
One of my pet peeves:

Don't say "I should have went" or "should have came".

It's "should have gone" or "should have come".
At least he didn't say "I should of went". ???

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2016, 11:17:04 AM »
At least he didn't say "I should of went". ???
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2016, 11:53:02 AM »
At least he didn't say "I should of went". ???
Oyyyy.  Cringing......

One of my pet peeves:

Don't say "I should have went" or "should have came".

It's "should have gone" or "should have come".

@srap maybe you can quantify this
Thanks for the challenge  >:(   Working on it... >:(

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2016, 11:55:40 AM »
Thanks for the challenge  >:(   Working on it... >:(
Thanks!

Then we can start teaching people the difference between "regard" and "regards".

As in, "in regards to your recent credit card application..." ouch!
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2016, 12:18:38 PM »
Thanks!

Then we can start teaching people the difference between "regard" and "regards".

As in, "in regards to your recent credit card application..." ouch!
Good one.  I look forward to reading your writeup. 
Best regards....@srap.

REGARD vs. REGARDS

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2016, 03:21:11 PM »
Is it wrong to start a paragraph with the word "And"?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2016, 03:24:07 PM »
Is it wrong to start a paragraph with the word "And"?

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There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such asand, but or so. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as 10 percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with conjunctions.
I guess that the same would apply to a paragraph, but I'm not very well educated.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 03:28:47 PM by lechatchileh ariber »
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2016, 03:25:34 PM »
Wth just happened?
Eta: I figured it out. I forgot to close the first parentheses.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2016, 10:31:38 PM »
Is it wrong to start a paragraph with the word "And"?
My legal writing prof. ranked on me for starting a paragraph with the word "nor."

I maintain that it was appropriate usage.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2016, 01:14:47 AM »
Grammarly is supposed to be a great and very advanced tool to help you out with all your needs in this area. Hope this helps someone.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2016, 01:36:44 AM »
Grammarly is supposed to be a great and very advanced tool to help you out with all your needs in this area. Hope this helps someone.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2016, 10:59:42 AM »
Grammarly is supposed to be a great and very advanced tool to help you out with all your needs in this area. Hope this helps someone.
I've been using it for a while and it's great. Catches lots of typos even before I see them :)
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2016, 05:00:38 PM »
If the first letter of the next word is a vowel then you say/write "an" otherwise it's "a"
FTFY.

A vs. AN

Always use 'a' except if the next word
1. starts with a vowel or
2. starts with an 'h' that is not pronounced (IOW, it's as if the word is starting with a vowel)

This means that 'a' horse/historian/hotel is what we say in the US, but some English would use 'an' (h)orse/(h)istorian/(h)otel.
The English say 'a' herb where Americans say 'an' (h)erb.

Let me set this straight, as it is not vowels and silent Hs that are the determining factors:

A vs. AN

If the next word begins with a vowel sound then the preceding word is an. In all other cases it's a.

Examples:
  • Please pass me a banana.
  • I would love have an apple to eat.
  • Yesterday, I closed on a house.
  • Call me in an hour.
  • The word map is spelled with an "M", not with an "N" or with a "C".
To wrap it up, it all depends on the beginning sound of the following word, regardless of its spelling. (No need to keep track on rules which types of Hs and vowels etc.)