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1.  there / their / they're
2.  a vs. an
3.  went vs. have gone
4. It's vs. Its
5. Affect vs. Effect
6.  Capital vs Capitol

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« Last edited by srap on December 07, 2017, 11:00:33 AM »

Author Topic: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101  (Read 3533 times)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2017, 07:19:15 PM »
I'm a Brit now living in the US. Over here, you spell it "traveling", but in the UK we spell it "travelling".

What do you do about "rebel" -- is it "rebelling" or "rebeling"?

When do you do a double "L" and when not? In short, where do you draw the line? (I love puns! ::))
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2017, 07:29:20 PM »
I'm a Brit now living in the US. Over here, you spell it "traveling", but in the UK we spell it "travelling".

What do you do about "rebel" -- is it "rebelling" or "rebeling"?

When do you do a double "L" and when not? In short, where do you draw the line? (I love puns! ::))
CMIIW but I believe it's the "short vowel sound" in "rebel" that indicates that we should double the "l" when adding the "ing" (or "ed" for that matter).  Travel does not have the "short e" sound.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2017, 07:50:39 PM »
I'm a Brit now living in the US. Over here, you spell it "traveling", but in the UK we spell it "travelling".

What do you do about "rebel" -- is it "rebelling" or "rebeling"?

When do you do a double "L" and when not? In short, where do you draw the line? (I love puns! ::))
double L
You gotta explain when the Brits pronounce T’s & when they’re silent. :)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2017, 07:52:10 PM »
I'm a Brit now living in the US. Over here, you spell it "traveling", but in the UK we spell it "travelling".

What do you do about "rebel" -- is it "rebelling" or "rebeling"?

When do you do a double "L" and when not? In short, where do you draw the line? (I love puns! ::) )
For the most part Americans do not double; Brits do.  Americans will sometimes double a final 'l' when the accent is not on the first syllable and the second syllable is a short vowel: (yes, @etech0)

'tra vel -   traveling    1st syll accent
'fuel     -   fueling
'can cel-   canceling

re 'bel  -   rebelling    2nd syll accent+short vowel
com 'pel - compelling

tra 'vail -  travailing   2nd syll accent+long vowel
con 'ceal - concealing

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2017, 08:23:43 PM »
double L
You gotta explain when the Brits pronounce T’s & when they’re silent. :)
Or how Americans (don't) pronounce the double T in Manhattan?

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2017, 08:25:09 PM »
Thanks @etech0 and @srap. Makes sense.

@TimT I would if I could
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2017, 08:31:47 PM »
double L
You gotta explain when the Brits pronounce T’s & when they’re silent. :)
Obligatory repost:
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2017, 08:43:47 PM »
Obligatory repost:

Thats where I got it from :)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2017, 08:45:20 PM »
Thats where I got it from :)
whatever!
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2017, 09:00:16 PM »
Well, my teeth are actually quite straight, thank you very much...

;D ;D ;D

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2017, 09:01:07 PM »
Well, my teeth are actually quite straight, thank you very much...

;D ;D ;D
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »

You gotta explain when the Brits pronounce T’s & when they’re silent. :)
According to this logic I corrected your username in the quote-title of your post.  :P

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #102 on: December 05, 2017, 09:39:53 PM »
Brevity may be the soul of wit, but floridity is its spirit.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2017, 11:59:42 PM »
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You gotta explain when the Brits pronounce T’s & when they’re silent. :)
Brits pronounce their 'T's.  Americans have a rule that changes some 'T's into 'D's:
 
[t]-->[d]/ vowel __ unaccented vowel (where '__' means the context)

letter
later
batting
riveting

but not before an accented vowel:
attention
competition


What do you mean silent?  Examples?  All Brits or just in accents like Cockney?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2017, 03:19:01 AM »
Brits pronounce their 'T's.  Americans have a rule that changes some 'T's into 'D's:
 
[t]-->[d]/ vowel __ unaccented vowel (where '__' means the context)

letter
later
batting
riveting

but not before an accented vowel:
attention
competition


What do you mean silent?  Examples?  All Brits or just in accents like Cockney?
letter sounds something like “le-uh”