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SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« on: April 13, 2016, 12:21:58 PM »
Title says it all. 1:1 and 20:25.
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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2016, 12:23:35 PM »
The following are some great awards with no fuel surcharges:

104,000 points for roundtrip Suites class LAX-NRT.
72,000 Starwood points for roundtrip Suites class JFK-FRA.
64,000 points for Virgin J from LAX to SYD/BNE roundtrip.
64,000 points for HA J from JFK to HNL roundtrip.
40,000 points for HA J from California to Hawaii roundtrip.
16,000 points for HA Y from California to Hawaii roundtrip.

Sure you can book SQuites with VX? SQ makes it available?

VA J to SYD/BNE = 65K, not 64K.
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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2016, 12:27:56 PM »
Sure you can book SQuites with VX? SQ makes it available?

VA J to SYD/BNE = 65K, not 64K.

First is listed there as an option, PUTPAC.

VA J would be 64,000. At transferring 1:1.25 = 80k.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2016, 12:36:00 PM »
First is listed there as an option, PUTPAC.

VA J would be 64,000. At transferring 1:1.25 = 80k.
Only in 20k increments.
You're correct if you transferred 80k+

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2016, 12:36:34 PM »


First is listed there as an option, PUTPAC.

VA J would be 64,000. At transferring 1:1.25 = 80k.

It's also listed as an option on UA and AC for SQ R, but it's useless as they don't make it available, so that fact is nearly irrelevant.

Nope. Check your math.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2016, 12:38:37 PM »

It's also listed as an option on UA and AC for SQ R, but it's useless as they don't make it available, so that fact is nearly irrelevant.

Nope. Check your math.



64,000 + 25% effective value = 80,000.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2016, 12:39:27 PM »
Nope.

60K = 75K

75K + 4K = 79K
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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2016, 12:40:28 PM »
Only in 20k increments.
You're correct if you transferred 80k+

Nope.

60K = 75K

75K + 4K = 79K

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2016, 12:54:01 PM »
Huh? Why would you transfer 80K SPG if you only need 80K VX?

You orphan 16K SPG to save 1K SPG?
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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2016, 12:57:01 PM »
Huh? Why would you transfer 80K SPG if you only need 80K VX?

You orphan 16K SPG to save 1K SPG?

It's effective value, as listed before. Whenever Dan makes a list on the site, it's always with effective SPG value too. See the last one listed, how is it 16,000 SPG for HA Y to California RT? That's effective value too.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2016, 01:04:54 PM »
That's a terrible way of analyzing costs given the overwhelming and strategic preference of keeping flexible points flexible for as long as one can, and until and unless one needs them.

The only way you get "effective value" is if you transfer *more* than you need, except in the rare case where the amount you need coincides with the 20:25K scheme.

So, essentially:



You orphan 16K SPG to save 1K SPG?

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2016, 01:56:19 PM »
Wow this would be the hottest SPG value I think

75K SPG round trip in SQ Suites with low YQ
JFK-LHR 30K RT in J High YQ, But Premium economy at 20K + $760 should be great
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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2016, 02:21:35 PM »
The big question now is when the merger with  AS will begin...

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2016, 03:06:37 PM »
I would think this deserves a DDMS write up...Dan is on vacation though isn't he?

Anybody have info on rates nyc-lax in J?

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2016, 03:12:12 PM »
I would think this deserves a DDMS write up...Dan is on vacation though isn't he?

Anybody have info on rates nyc-lax in J?

wouldn't it depend on the price of the flight?

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2016, 03:15:38 PM »
wouldn't it depend on the price of the flight?

Yup, traditional award chart is only for partners.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2016, 04:09:36 PM »
Who is giving it a try to see how long it takes to transfer?

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2016, 04:23:00 PM »
We received your request to transfer StarpointsŪ to Virgin America. Please allow up to 4-6 business days for the transfer to be completed.


called this am bec spg site didnt have vx as option to tx points

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2016, 10:16:36 PM »
Wow this would be the hottest SPG value I think

75K SPG round trip in SQ Suites with low YQ
JFK-LHR 30K RT in J High YQ, But Premium economy at 20K + $760 should be great
If I want to continue to prg or waw . can I use the same amount of points? Same question if I use SQ miles for suits nyc to fra.

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Re: SPG now transfers to Virgin America (VX)
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2016, 10:17:48 PM »
VX is very limited with partners AFAIK