Author Topic: Silent Killer (Read 216579 times)

aygart · « **Reply #80 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:03:58 PM »

There already are numerous organizations for treating anxiety and depression. What does this one add?

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #81 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:07:14 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on July 17, 2016, 09:58:10 PM

Because making up numbers doesn't help the cause.

Give some backup for me to believe this outlandish claim.

You're not being reasonable.

BH you are clearly clueless about what is going on on the streets of the frum communities.
Its all very nice, but you should definitely continue to research this. - Ignorance in these matters can be deadly if it ever C"V affects someone close to you.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #82 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:09:37 PM »

Quote from: aygart on July 17, 2016, 10:03:58 PM

There already are numerous organizations for treating anxiety and depression. What does this one add?

It sounds like they deal with serious crises, not mild cases of post partum depression.
Cmiiw but most organization don't want to go anywhere near the filth that they deal with...

aygart · « **Reply #83 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:11:54 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on July 17, 2016, 10:09:37 PM

It sounds like they deal with serious crises, not mild cases of post partum depression.
Cmiiw but most organization don't want to go anywhere near the filth that they deal with...

I bh have no clue. Is that the case?

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #84 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:13:10 PM »

Quote from: aygart on July 17, 2016, 10:11:54 PM

I bh have no clue. Is that the case?

Is it the case that most organizations don't deal with "messy" situations? You bet!

thaber · « **Reply #85 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:19:50 PM »

There are many, many young men and women from frum homes who have serious addiction issues. It is often a package deal with emotional and mental health issues. I am not someone involved in this at all, and know more than one person who died of a drug overdose, and several more that are in and out of rehab. Once an addict it's always there lurking.
When they are niftar there is a clear effort to keep it quiet, out of consideration for the families. (most of these are not reported on anywhere at all, very few are 'high profile'). I understand that fully, but the side effect is that people simply don't believe it's there.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #86 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:22:43 PM »

Quote from: thaber on July 17, 2016, 10:19:50 PM

There are many, many young men and women from frum homes who have serious addiction issues. It is often a package deal with emotional and mental health issues. I am not someone involved in this at all, and know more than one person who died of a drug overdose, and several more that are in and out of rehab. Once an addict it's always there lurking.
When they are niftar there is a clear effort to keep it quiet, out of consideration for the families. (most of these are not reported on anywhere at all, very few are 'high profile'). I understand that fully, but the side effect is that people simply don't believe it's there.

So true.

So many... The numbers of addicts who are knocking on deaths door are mind boggling. RC"l

coralsnake · « **Reply #87 on:** July 17, 2016, 10:29:58 PM »

Anyone who thinks that 77 deaths via suicide or OD in this community since RH is overstated simply isn't in-tune to what's really going on out there.

I think the real number may be higher.

yochiek93 · « **Reply #88 on:** July 17, 2016, 11:47:35 PM »

Quote from: coralsnake on July 17, 2016, 10:29:58 PM

Anyone who thinks that 77 deaths via suicide or OD in this community since RH is overstated simply isn't in-tune to what's really going on out there.

I think the real number may be higher.

Most probably is

mgarfin · « **Reply #89 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:10:54 AM »

Just a quick question. When we say in the community, is it in all of the frum community? Is it more in some parts of the community? Are some more prone to drug's or OD?

coralsnake · « **Reply #90 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:01:18 AM »

Quote from: mgarfin on July 18, 2016, 12:10:54 AM

Just a quick question. When we say in the community, is it in all of the frum community?

Yes

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Is it more in some parts of the community?

Depends who you ask but doesnt seem like it to me

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Are some more prone to drug's or OD?

No

yitzf · « **Reply #91 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:35:14 PM »

A very insightful (and easy to watch) primer on addiction (5 min).

I take no responsibility for the scientific accuracy.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #92 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:12:24 PM »

Quote from: yitzf on July 18, 2016, 10:35:14 PM

I take no responsibility for the scientific accuracy.

Don't worry about that, Kurzgesagt is always on point.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #93 on:** July 19, 2016, 08:27:36 AM »

I'm just trying to figure out if this is a bash Amudim thread or a handwringing what shall we do thread. Suicide, along with its causes, mental illness and addiction, have always been swept under the rug like molestation.

Amudim is actively trying to prevent suicides. Whether the number of deaths from suicide or unintentional overdose is overstated (and i believe it is understated) is immaterial. This is not a fund-raising gimmick. Its to raise awareness.

I have firsthand knowledge of some of their activities. They help people find therapists and subsidize therapy. Direct struggling addicts to people with experience in recovery.

So, yes there is a need for yet another organization. At least one that takes addiction and mental illness seriously.

Disclaimer: I am not in any way shape or form involved in running this organization.