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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #180 on: November 16, 2016, 03:25:07 PM »
"Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."

So nice they let you keep all YOUR information. If only they would let you access it too.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #181 on: November 16, 2016, 03:25:34 PM »
That may be the interpretation they intended, but it's debatable.

The issue, and what's concerning, is that emails are being bounced back, so the data they may ultimately give, is going to incomplete and defective. This is where the irrevocable damages stems from, and it's what I'm going to lean on in a big way if this is not resolved in short order.
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« Reply #182 on: November 16, 2016, 03:26:15 PM »
All that paragraph means is that any service you use is subject to the terms and conditions of that service but it doesn't say anywhere that if you violate the terms and conditions of one service they have a right to shut all there other services

Unfortunately, it seems they may have the better end of the legal argument (see below), but most courts sit in both legal and equitable capacities, and I am confident we have the better equitable claim.

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« Reply #183 on: November 16, 2016, 03:27:28 PM »
So Google Takeout isn't working for those affected?
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So Google Takeout isn't working for those affected?

Gotta login for it to work...
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #185 on: November 16, 2016, 03:28:53 PM »
Hindsight is 20/20 eh?

I wrote my comments before you explained yourself so I can quote those comments as well.

Regardless it is something readily available on their homepage so, I would say that it was a dumb rep either way.
well if the reason why your opinion was created, was taken away, then maybe you shouldn't have continued attacking us.
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« Reply #186 on: November 16, 2016, 03:29:26 PM »
Gotta login for it to work...
See if the login works.
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« Reply #187 on: November 16, 2016, 03:29:33 PM »
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #188 on: November 16, 2016, 03:30:07 PM »
well if the reason why your opinion was created, was taken away, then maybe you shouldn't have continued attacking us.
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
We're just saying to feign ignorance is not going to help. Personally I'd be EECBing every @Google I got my hands on.
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« Reply #189 on: November 16, 2016, 03:30:33 PM »
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?

Probably best to create external poll which people can send around using email. Oh wait...
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #190 on: November 16, 2016, 03:31:52 PM »
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
the system allowed one primary line with 5 additional users (total 6)
one one account i think i only ordered one, which got shut down as well
not sure :)
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #191 on: November 16, 2016, 03:34:33 PM »
Is posting about this on DDMS really productive at this point?
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #192 on: November 16, 2016, 03:34:37 PM »
Sure does, it's one agreement. That's what the line means, by agreeing to this all other agreements become part of this.

ETA: The same terms page says

it's not true  all it means is that each service is subject to its terms and conditions

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #193 on: November 16, 2016, 03:35:43 PM »
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
We're just saying to feign ignorance is not going to help. Personally I'd be EECBing every @Google I got my hands on.
that's not how it came about,
see ppl's comments
and i just sent the topic to someone (who got banned and is not on the forums) and he responded, wow they are attacking you hard .. so it can't be a biased opinion 
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #194 on: November 16, 2016, 03:36:08 PM »
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
+1. Seriously.

When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...

Is posting about this on DDMS really productive at this point?
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« Reply #195 on: November 16, 2016, 03:37:07 PM »
When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...
LOL
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« Reply #196 on: November 16, 2016, 03:38:03 PM »
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.

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« Reply #197 on: November 16, 2016, 03:39:20 PM »
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.
you sure????
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #198 on: November 16, 2016, 03:39:54 PM »
+1. Seriously.

When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...
Bringing media attention to Google's crazy power may help get accounts back and bring on much needed reform.
+1K. Some people are being really defensive here. We get it, this is awful. I'd be devastated as well. But let's get your accounts back as the goal.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #199 on: November 16, 2016, 03:40:01 PM »
it's not true  all it means is that each service is subject to its terms and conditions

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I'd love a poll on this, but i literally cannot see how you are reading this.

It is an if then statement.

If you use those services then those additional terms become part of your agreement with us.

And understanding that when you use any google service you are under the google general agreement you can understand how breaking any term of that agreement now applies to all google services.

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