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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #220 on: November 15, 2017, 11:51:56 AM »
You say that, but a simple reading of your comments don't imply that. Wouldn't you better serve the 'truth' by stating your whole opinion on the matter in the first place? It's a very misleading tactic that basically promotes a lot of unnecessary back and forth. If it weren't almost entirely in JS threads I'd think it was post padding.
I'm sorry if you misunderstood. I don't have an evidence based opinion on supply side economics and anything I would say on the matter would be an appeal to authority. My point was that he wasn't even doing that.
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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #221 on: November 15, 2017, 12:03:47 PM »
I'm sorry if you misunderstood. I don't have an evidence based opinion on supply side economics and anything I would say on the matter would be an appeal to authority. My point was that he wasn't even doing that.
You could've just written that. I didn't misunderstand you. I had to guess at your opinion based on what you wrote/didn't write.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #222 on: November 15, 2017, 12:09:44 PM »
You could've just written that. I didn't misunderstand you. I had to guess at your opinion based on what you wrote/didn't write.
I guess that is because I wasn't stating an opinion.
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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #223 on: November 15, 2017, 03:19:01 PM »

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #224 on: November 15, 2017, 03:25:04 PM »
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/11.14.17%20Chairman's%20Modified%20Mark.pdf

What happened to Orrin Hatch's supposed tax break for paying tuition to private religious schools as reported in the end of the link below?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/11/12/orrin-hatch-to-introduce-senate-tax-reform-bill-amendments-changing-401k-ira-classifications.html
Who cares? It would allow us to set up 529's for our children in utero!   /s

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #225 on: November 15, 2017, 03:46:27 PM »
Who cares? It would allow us to set up 529's for our children in utero!   /s
That is something totally different.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #226 on: November 15, 2017, 03:49:52 PM »
That is something totally different.
It was a joke. Specifically one mocking that provision.

FYI, /s means sarcasm.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #228 on: November 15, 2017, 06:44:15 PM »

What happened to Orrin Hatch's supposed tax break for paying tuition to private religious schools as reported in the end of the link below?


Amendment# 4
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/MasterTaxAmendments.pdf

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #232 on: November 15, 2017, 07:38:09 PM »
Republicans when in power will try to slash tax rates while Democrats will try to increase rates on the rich (de Blasio in NYC). You can debate till your blue in the face - this isn't about facts it's about politics. If you want your wages to increase don't count on the Democrats or Republicans to solve your problems - go get a better education, a better job, a second job.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #233 on: November 15, 2017, 07:55:41 PM »
Amendment# 4
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/MasterTaxAmendments.pdf
When did that come out?

Why don't I see any mention of that in the link below regarding THE CHAIRMAN’S MODIFICATION TO THE CHAIRMAN’S MARK OF THE “TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT ? That is not amendments? What do I have wrong?
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/11.14.17%20Chairman's%20Modified%20Mark.pdf



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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #234 on: November 15, 2017, 08:19:05 PM »
When did that come out?

Why don't I see any mention of that in the link below regarding THE CHAIRMAN’S MODIFICATION TO THE CHAIRMAN’S MARK OF THE “TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT ? That is not amendments? What do I have wrong?
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/11.14.17%20Chairman's%20Modified%20Mark.pdf
I got that Sunday night.

There are the changes to the original bill and amendments that have to be voted on and included - semantics.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #235 on: November 15, 2017, 10:01:12 PM »
When did that come out?

Why don't I see any mention of that in the link below regarding THE CHAIRMAN’S MODIFICATION TO THE CHAIRMAN’S MARK OF THE “TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT ? That is not amendments? What do I have wrong?
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/11.14.17%20Chairman's%20Modified%20Mark.pdf

A chairman’s mark is the first draft of legislation introduced by the chairman of a committee or subcommittee that is then debated and amended by committee colleagues. This ability to decide the starting point for all further work on a piece of legislation is an important part of the chair’s power.

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #236 on: November 15, 2017, 11:06:12 PM »
But would you think that if the chairman's modification to the chairman's mark that just came out yesterday, made no mention of private school tuition that was already mentioned on Monday, that it implies that they have forgotten about it, or is it really still there as an amendment?

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #237 on: November 15, 2017, 11:16:26 PM »
But would you think that if the chairman's modification to the chairman's mark that just came out yesterday, made no mention of private school tuition that was already mentioned on Monday, that it implies that they have forgotten about it, or is it really still there as an amendment?
That can depend whether or not you understand congressional procedures.
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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #238 on: November 16, 2017, 10:28:22 AM »
Republicans when in power will try to slash tax rates while Democrats will try to increase rates on the rich (de Blasio in NYC). You can debate till your blue in the face - this isn't about facts it's about politics. If you want your wages to increase don't count on the Democrats or Republicans to solve your problems - go get a better education, a better job, a second job.

I agree with you and could not have said it better myself. It is just insulting to be lied to and taken as a fool.So I happy about this guy...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-sen-ron-johnson-opposes-gop-senate-tax-package-1510777290

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Re: Trump-Republican tax plan bad for large families
« Reply #239 on: November 16, 2017, 10:42:42 AM »
I agree with you and could not have said it better myself. It is just insulting to be lied to and taken as a fool.So I happy about this guy...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-sen-ron-johnson-opposes-gop-senate-tax-package-1510777290
The only fool is the one who comes up with opinions without being willing to review the facts. That includes most (all?) politicians.
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