Take the Moral Machine Test

[Sport]

Thought this was pretty intriguing. With the advent of self driving cars ethics committees are going to make decisions that will affect the cars algorithms, putting a new spin on the trolley dilemma. MIT created a website where you can explore different scenarios and submit your opinion on what the moral choice would be
    http://moralmachine.mit.edu/

[mmgfarb]

I had a very different idea of what this thread would be when I read the title.

[Sport]

I had a very different idea of what this thread would be when I read the title.

Yeah realized that after I posted, will change the title to be less misleading

[Freddie]

I had a very different idea of what this thread would be when I read the title.

Yeah, I thought it was a machine you could turn on to be moral for you.

[Sport]

Code: [Select]

My results: http://moralmachine.mit.edu/hl/en/results/-1618296177

although somewhat inaccurate.

[aro123]

I think the most amazing thing about these dilemmas is that the torah gave us guidelines to solve them and we don't need to use our emotions to decide what is right  (especially because everyone has different emotions (

[aro123]

I am just wondering in the case that you have to kill someone, do we go with shev v'al taaseh or the one crossing illegally is ihu d'afsid anafshei?

[Amusch]

I think the most amazing thing about these dilemmas is that the torah gave us guidelines to solve them and we don't need to use our emotions to decide what is right  (especially because everyone has different emotions (

I tried using the Torah's guidelines, but I'm not sure if I was perfect. You can notice a near perfect lack of intervention scale (shev v'al ta'aseh) outside of intervening to save animals.
http://moralmachine.mit.edu/hl/en/results/1280911164

[David Smith]

Very interesting.

Using always putting saving more human lives first, giving precedence to yourself when resulting in equal casualties, and not intervening when resulting in equal pedestrian casualties, this was result.

[aro123]

I think that according to halacha:   you always save yourself if it's shev val taaseh and you never save yourself if its kum v'asai

[David Smith]

I think that according to halacha:   you always save yourself if it's shev val taaseh and you never save yourself if its kum v'asai

That would only apply with an active driver, no? A self driving car should make things interesting. I would think that a self driving car (which is essentially a third party) should give precedence to minimizing casualties.

[aro123]

Unless they leave it up to the owner to decide how it's programmed.  ( just like now it's up to you to decide )

[coralsnake]

Unless they leave it up to the owner to decide how it's programmed.  ( just like now it's up to you to decide )

Is that part of the setup process?

Would you rather kill men or women?

Would you rather kill fat people or fit people?

Would you rather kill dogs or criminals?

ARE YOU SURE??

Is there anyone specific you would like to kill?

[aro123]

Since the government doesn't want to decide and the car companies don't want to get sued they may have to leave it up to the owner

[David Smith]

Let's not get back into gender preference in saving lives...

[grodnoking]

Very interesting.

Using always putting saving more human lives first, giving precedence to yourself when resulting in equal casualties, and not intervening when resulting in equal pedestrian casualties, this was result.

Fit people and higher class people had no difference in your mind yet it still saved all of them, showing it's not a very conclusive machine.

[grodnoking]

Since the government doesn't want to decide and the car companies don't want to get sued they may have to leave it up to the owner

Ha! Government will decide.
 And it'll probably have no standing in Halacha.

[Sport]

That would only apply with an active driver, no? A self driving car should make things interesting. I would think that a self driving car (which is essentially a third party) should give precedence to minimizing casualties.

Exactly, that's what makes this very intriguing.

[grodnoking]

A missing factor is that the car needs to also decide how likely it is for each subject to die and factor that in too. Going 25 mph into a barrier may or may not kill a passenger, but on the other hand the human may leap out of the way in time.

[Sport]

Ha! Government will decide.
 And it'll probably have no standing in Halacha.

Of course! Would you be allowed to purchase a self driving car if it's algorithms didn't adhere to halacha ?