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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2017, 11:51:46 PM »
Tell that to the guy who said two is enough..

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« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2017, 11:52:39 PM »

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« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2017, 11:57:29 PM »
Its only a far stretch cuz you and me have no clue what is going on behind the scenes.
you gave a specific scenario which would not be a heter, you can say there were other reasons... there is no reason to believe there was pikuach nefesh if she would not have attended the ceremonies after shkia

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2017, 12:06:18 AM »
you gave a specific scenario which would not be a heter, you can say there were other reasons... there is no reason to believe there was pikuach nefesh if she would not have attended the ceremonies after shkia
You don't need pikuach nefesh for amirah lakum

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2017, 12:16:54 AM »
You don't need pikuach nefesh for amirah lakum
if you believe the report that she got a heter the reasoning was pikuach nefesh. there was no mention of amira lakum

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2017, 12:26:12 AM »
he puts a stink on the whole thing. she may be jewish but i dont see it as certain especially when you consider she currently doesnt keep all the mitzvos
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2017, 12:30:46 AM »
Nobody keeps all the mitzvos
im referring to ones that are known to be assur
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« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2017, 07:25:18 AM »
"Carter doesn't get health insurance because you have to work for the federal government for five years to qualify."

Seriously?
Yes.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2017, 09:00:31 AM »


There is no way in the world it's a good geirus a gerus needs kabolos mitzvahs and she never covered her her hair which if she never did is enough to disable a geirus she herself said in an interview that she is pretty observent which means there is definitely other stuff she never did and if it's not a good geirus she is still a goy and if she keeps shabbos she would be mechuv missah so it's disgusting how everyone is saying how it's such a nice thing that she is keeping shabbos and getting all bent out of shape when she doesn't she is regular goy and it's much better when she doesn't
Grammer would help your gibberish.
It would likely still be gibberish, but it will at least be readable gibberish.


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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2017, 09:06:33 AM »
Grammer would help your gibberish.
It would likely still be gibberish, but it will at least be readable gibberish.
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You actually want him to make גראמען of of that?

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2017, 09:29:43 AM »

Geirus needs a bridge din of 3, so not sure what you mean by 2?

Tell that to the guy who said two is enough..
Never said you need 2, I'm not pretending to know Hilchos Geirus etc but who says Haskel Lookstein is not a kosher Dayan for this purpose all I said was the fact that Herschel Shacter was on the bais din is good enough for me to say the geirus was good regardless and I'm sure he didnt not lower his standards to haskell's

you gave a specific scenario which would not be a heter, you can say there were other reasons... there is no reason to believe there was pikuach nefesh if she would not have attended the ceremonies after shkia

For this scenario it's not all that difficult to be dan lkaf zchus... I'm not sure why you're so bent on that she's not jewish and that she definitely had no heter if she is... unless you have personal reasons s like that it's more convenient to actually be muttar to speak loshon hara about her

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2017, 09:32:32 AM »
Can someone answer a simple question. Did they (not just her) have some type of a special exemption?
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« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2017, 09:40:00 AM »
Can someone answer a simple question. Did they (not just her) have some type of a special exemption?

It's not likely any one here can confirm that with any degree of accuracy.  Nevertheless, many here are sufficiantly versed in halacha to determine that there was not likely suffucient justification in this case for any exemption.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2017, 09:41:31 AM »
Can someone answer a simple question. Did they (not just her) have some type of a special exemption?
No, it was applying a concept on very solid ground in a way it may never have been intended. Even that depends on exactly what the ruling was.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2017, 09:44:02 AM »
Never said you need 2, I'm not pretending to know Hilchos Geirus etc but who says Haskel Lookstein is not a kosher Dayan for this purpose all I said was the fact that Herschel Shacter was on the bais din is good enough for me to say the geirus was good regardless and I'm sure he didnt not lower his standards to haskell's

the guy doesnt meet the israeli rabbinate standards... i wouldnt be so convinced.

For this scenario it's not all that difficult to be dan lkaf zchus... I'm not sure why you're so bent on that she's not jewish and that she definitely had no heter if she is... unless you have personal reasons s like that it's more convenient to actually be muttar to speak loshon hara about her

i dont really care if shes jewish.. im not exactly looking to do a shidduch with her, just saying im not convinced she is. as far as l"h i dont consider her frum even if she is jewish so it wouldnt be a problem regardless.