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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #820 on: June 15, 2017, 07:39:08 PM »
Despite a few exchanges we've had here, I am sure you don't have the faintest clue about my background (though some hints about some details have been dropped here and there), nor do even those DDFers that know me by my legal name and/or face or hair color.


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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #821 on: June 15, 2017, 08:20:35 PM »
Context.

I wrote it in response to:And I made an allusion to the fact that there's a heightened awareness to Kashrus of tefillin in Lubavitch, which I don't think exists elsewhere.

A possible outcome of that awareness is that IINM prices paid for tefillin and mezuzos are generally higher in Lubavitch circles.
Okay. I still don't see how those roshei teivos led that direction but I probably will never get the full import of them.

BTW, I have a feeling that the prices paid in Lubavitch circles are dwarfed by those paid in Lakewood, but I may be way off on that one. Here it is also due to a heightened awareness.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #825 on: June 16, 2017, 12:29:32 PM »
Confirmed. Modern orthodox is conservative.

There are major, substantial differences.  I would love to articuate them, but I keep Shabbos :)

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #826 on: June 16, 2017, 12:42:24 PM »
Confirmed. Modern orthodox is conservative.

Eye roll.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #827 on: June 16, 2017, 01:42:13 PM »
Eye roll.
Did you read the article and the scientific research conducted?

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #828 on: June 16, 2017, 01:45:54 PM »
Did you read the article and the scientific research conducted?
Did you read who they included as "modern orthodox"? They counted anyone who if they would ever go to a synagogue would go to an orthodox one as modox even if they have not done anything for religious observance in their life.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #829 on: June 16, 2017, 01:59:29 PM »
Did you read who they included as "modern orthodox"? They counted anyone who if they would ever go to a synagogue would go to an orthodox one as modox even if they have not done anything for religious observance in their life.
Self identified is the term.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #830 on: June 16, 2017, 02:05:22 PM »
Self identified is the term.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #831 on: June 16, 2017, 02:10:05 PM »
No true Scotsman
Logical fallacy. Cognitive dissonance. Scottish nonsense.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #832 on: June 16, 2017, 02:32:52 PM »
It's a good thing that even people who are not frum identify as orthodox. Marriage, conversion, etc. have to be done al pi halacha

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #833 on: June 16, 2017, 02:40:13 PM »
Logical fallacy. Cognitive dissonance. Scottish nonsense.
Wtvr I've hear em all.
Call what you wish. A krumme svara is still krum
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #834 on: June 17, 2017, 02:40:52 PM »
Confirmed. Modern orthodox is conservative.
There are major, substantial differences.  I would love to articulate them, but I keep Shabbos :)

The difference between Orthodox and Conservative is in the ideology of their respective Rabbinic leadership, not in the practices of their adherents.  The majority of Modern Orthodox Rabbis have views on the authority of Rabbinic Law that place them firmly in the Orthodox camp.  Those who don't tend to identify as Open Orthodox.  You can point to the low level of practice of some or many Modern Orthodox Jews as an indication of the non-viability of the Modern part of Modern Orthodoxy, but that in no way makes them Conservative.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #835 on: June 18, 2017, 06:53:29 PM »
iinm its the kuf is much more russian/lithunaian
On the topic of Yiddish difference, came across this.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #836 on: June 18, 2017, 07:12:58 PM »
On the topic of Yiddish difference, came across this.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #837 on: June 19, 2017, 07:56:03 AM »
Did you read the article and the scientific research conducted?

Yes I did. I also know that MO shuls are more accepting (I would say there are plenty of non-observant Chabad affiliated Jews who are non practicing too). So people might affiliate with modern orthodoxy but not be fully observant. I know many people who fall into this category, including some who attend my mainstream MO shul.

MO and Conservative are very different philosophically. I grew up attending a right wing yeshiva for elementary school even though my family is MO, so I'm used to people discounting MO, calling us conservative, disrespecting our rabbonim and generally trying to throw us out of the orthodox umbrella. So yes, I rolled my eyes at your post.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #838 on: June 21, 2017, 08:12:30 PM »
So once Jared is out of the country Marco tries to get in a hug.....
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #839 on: June 23, 2017, 04:07:40 PM »
Anyone see Ivankas picnic dress?
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