Author Topic: Keeping Up With The Kushners  (Read 225988 times)

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #80 on: January 22, 2017, 09:58:12 AM »
Learn seder chofetz chaim ever??
a couple times

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2017, 09:58:22 AM »
Anyone with any common sense knows you have better justification for the kosher switch then this if it is true.  ;)
They are very different in that she presumably could have not done anything herself. The question would only be having things done for her by a non Jew.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #82 on: January 22, 2017, 09:58:52 AM »
I see you are one of them  :)
No, I am the common sense one.  ;)
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2017, 10:02:22 AM »
Maybe it's time for the mods to prune this entire discussion out of here, and put it in it's own thread, possibly titled "How orthodox/observant is Jared Kushner, and is Ivanka Jewish? - לשון הרע אלערט"
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2017, 10:03:00 AM »
they take just about anyone in the spectrum of orthodoxy. plus, for him to say the guy is definitely good bec. of RHS doesnt make sense when you clearly see there are rabbonim that think his geirus isnt good
A "no" would've been easier.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2017, 10:04:30 AM »
A "no" would've been easier.
could be. you cant argue the second point

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2017, 10:04:31 AM »


i dont really care if shes jewish.. im not exactly looking to do a shidduch with her, just saying im not convinced she is. as far as l"h i dont consider her frum even if she is jewish so it wouldnt be a problem regardless.

I wouldn't bet my olam habah (and getting all her aveiros?) on this one... just not worth it

Source that RHS geirus not accepted by rabbinate, mby you're confusing Lookstien s?

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2017, 10:05:19 AM »

I wouldn't bet my olam habah (and getting all her aveiros?) on this one... just not worth it

Source that RHS geirus not accepted by rabbinate, mby you're confusing Lookstien s?
i was referring to lookstein

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2017, 10:05:31 AM »


Intresting that you know the inner workings of the trump family, American politics, the secret service and they're personal situation where they had to be and when.

None of that matters if there is a problem of Chillul Shabbos. I'm not getting involved if there is or if there isn't but your response didn't make sense.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2017, 10:05:37 AM »



 mby you're confusing Lookstien s?
He def is accepted.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2017, 10:13:00 AM »

None of that matters if there is a problem of Chillul Shabbos. I'm not getting involved if there is or if there isn't but your response didn't make sense.
My point is that being that Noone here knows the exact details or even vague details you can't say if there's a makom for a heter of chillul shabbos or not. There are many factors that we don't know which would matter for a heter and was just bringing up some of the possibilities

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2017, 10:43:53 AM »
ill stop. i dont think im wrong just like everyone else... but the l"h makes it not worth it, on that ur right.
just to be clear the original criticism was on the heter not on them following it

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« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2017, 10:45:28 AM »
just to be clear the original criticism question was on the heter not on them following it
FTFY
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2017, 10:45:54 AM »

None of that matters if there is a problem of Chillul Shabbos. I'm not getting involved if there is or if there isn't but your response didn't make sense.
how are you considering her following a ruling of her LOR to show that it is invalid even if the ruling is misguided?
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2017, 03:12:15 PM »
i was referring to lookstein

Until recently the Rabbanut decided whether to approve each Geirus on a case by case basis (regardless of which Rabbi did the conversion). They recently announced that they would change that, and in that statment explicitly said that Ivanka would be considered Jewish.

http://www.jta.org/2016/12/07/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/israels-chief-rabbinate-promises-to-establish-conversion-standards-and-count-ivanka-trump-as-jewish

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2017, 03:22:09 PM »
I suspect JTZ is considering marrying his grandkids to a Kushner kid and wants to make sure they're halachically catholic :D
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2017, 03:30:31 PM »
I suspect JTZ is considering marrying his grandkids to a Kushner kid and wants to make sure they're halachically catholic :D

Her parents got divorced, does that disqualify her?

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #99 on: January 22, 2017, 04:35:42 PM »
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/515545/leave-jared-and-ivanka-alone.html
Right out of the Catholic playbook (dispensation).

The media reported that they received Rabbinic dispensation for the former.
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