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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2017, 10:37:14 AM »
I did find it really hilarious that in this weeks issue, in between two letters decrying the luxury lifestyles there's a full page ad from "The Runway" ?!

Absolutely pathetic. The voice is just trying to stir up an interesting discussion so that they can sell more of the gashmius. If it was up to me i would not allow the Voice into my house....

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2017, 10:38:38 AM »
Not to get all preachy, but:

Its not all about Lakewood. This phenomena of chasing the american dream of living a luxurious lifestyle is the biggest threat to Yiddishkeit in this generation. similar to Haskala back in the day, or worse.

How are we to bring up children to have any interest and enthusiasm in spiritual pursuits, about learning/davening etc if this is the focus we teach and live by?
Its either this world or the next. Yiddishkeit is becoming an empty shell.
Its a terrible situation, but noone speaks out.... This is not the focus of Agudah conventions or anything else. Roshei Mosdos and some Rabbonim dont criticize the redifas hamamon because they suffer from the same ailment themselves!

We are left with the glossy VOL discussing this as though its just another quality of life issue..... How ridiculous.

/end preach

Ironically you're posting this on a website that's dedicated to chasing the American dream (at a discount, of course.)
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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 10:41:03 AM »
Not to get all preachy, but:

Its not all about Lakewood. This phenomena of chasing the american dream of living a luxurious lifestyle is the biggest threat to Yiddishkeit in this generation. similar to Haskala back in the day, or worse.

How are we to bring up children to have any interest and enthusiasm in spiritual pursuits, about learning/davening etc if this is the focus we teach and live by?
Its either this world or the next. Yiddishkeit is becoming an empty shell.
Its a terrible situation, but noone speaks out.... This is not the focus of Agudah conventions or anything else. Roshei Mosdos and some Rabbonim dont criticize the redifas hamamon because they suffer from the same ailment themselves!

We are left with the glossy VOL discussing this as though its just another quality of life issue..... How ridiculous.

/end preach

Preach brother!

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2017, 10:41:39 AM »
Ironically you're posting this on a website that's dedicated to chasing the American dream (at a discount, of course.)
Huh?
Strongly disagree. When I used this website to churn/earn, it was definitely not for any american dream...

To each their own.. but ive never flow in J in my life!

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2017, 10:42:31 AM »
Not to get all preachy, but:

Its not all about Lakewood. This phenomena of chasing the american dream of living a luxurious lifestyle is the biggest threat to Yiddishkeit in this generation. similar to Haskala back in the day, or worse.

How are we to bring up children to have any interest and enthusiasm in spiritual pursuits, about learning/davening etc if this is the focus we teach and live by?
Its either this world or the next. Yiddishkeit is becoming an empty shell.
Its a terrible situation, but noone speaks out.... This is not the focus of Agudah conventions or anything else. Roshei Mosdos and some Rabbonim dont criticize the redifas hamamon because they suffer from the same ailment themselves!

We are left with the glossy VOL discussing this as though its just another quality of life issue..... How ridiculous.

/end preach

How about a curriculum in the elementary and high school about the maalos of living a simpler lifestyle and the connection to ruchniyus that it can foster. In the 60s and 70s the bais Yaakov's were wildly successful in educating a generation of girls about the value of Torah and appreciation for kollel despite coming from homes that looked down upon the same. Perhaps this can be accomplished in this area as well. IMO once a child leaves school the odds of them gravitating away from the lifestyle they see in the home and on the street is very very low...

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2017, 10:43:29 AM »
Absolutely pathetic. The voice is just trying to stir up an interesting discussion so that they can sell more of the gashmius. If it was up to me i would not allow the Voice into my house....
It's not up to you??

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2017, 10:46:14 AM »
Huh?
Strongly disagree. When I used this website to churn/earn, it was definitely not for any american dream...

To each their own.. but ive never flow in J in my life!

Not saying what you use it for, but what the site is mostly about.
Take a look around- deals on all sorts of things, including luxuries, flying in J, luxurious vacations in exotic places, fancy restaurants, crazy TR's, etc.
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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2017, 10:48:27 AM »
It's not up to you??

/Preach  :P

Fist of all I need it to know what to preach about ..  8)


Reminds me of a time I was at a sermon by a Modox Rabbi, he was talking about something degenerate that happened on TV that week. One of the congregants asked him why he watched this stuff as a rabbi? He said he needs to have his finger on the pulse of pop cutler so that he can better guide the community... LOL

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2017, 10:53:41 AM »
Fist of all I need it to know what to preach about ..  8)


Reminds me of a time I was at a sermon by a Modox Rabbi, he was talking about something degenerate that happened on TV that week. One of the congregants asked him why he watched this stuff as a rabbi? He said he needs to have his finger on the pulse of pop cutler so that he can better guide the community... LOL
Freudian typo?? LOL!!

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2017, 10:56:32 AM »
Not to get all preachy, but:

Its not all about Lakewood. This phenomena of chasing the american dream of living a luxurious lifestyle is the biggest threat to Yiddishkeit in this generation. similar to Haskala back in the day, or worse.

How are we to bring up children to have any interest and enthusiasm in spiritual pursuits, about learning/davening etc if this is the focus we teach and live by?
Its either this world or the next. Yiddishkeit is becoming an empty shell.
Its a terrible situation, but noone speaks out.... This is not the focus of Agudah conventions or anything else. Roshei Mosdos and some Rabbonim dont criticize the redifas hamamon because they suffer from the same ailment themselves!

We are left with the glossy VOL discussing this as though its just another quality of life issue..... How ridiculous.

/end preach
After the Shevach Meat scandal in Monsey R' Mattisyahu spent many shmoozin on this topic and spoke about it in many venues other than BMG as well. Chazara is the ikar.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2017, 10:59:24 AM »
Frankly, it's really embarrassing to hear yungerleit in the coffee room talking about layouts trims, and home furnishing styles and it's embarrassing to go to a kiddush with tons of $6 miniatures and $100 cakes and party planners when the Baal Simcha is not paying full tuition, but what is the Baal Simcha supposed to do when the over the top kiddish is the norm but paying full tuition is not "in". If only that were a status symbol to brag about! I could just see people racking up cc debt to boast that they paid top dollar to their kids school. :)

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2017, 11:01:40 AM »
Not saying what you use it for, but what the site is mostly about.
Take a look around- deals on all sorts of things, including luxuries, flying in J, luxurious vacations in exotic places, fancy restaurants, crazy TR's, etc.
Everyone has their own thing they get from this site. Also, there is a concept that getting pampered for a short vacation helps for the rest of the year and is not a contradiction to a less luxurious lifestyle. The key is moderation and not getting consumed by it.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2017, 11:05:26 AM »
After the Shevach Meat scandal in Monsey R' Mattisyahu spent many shmoozin on this topic and spoke about it in many venues other than BMG as well. Chazara is the ikar.
That was quite a while ago. From what I see now I would say if you are first preaching to a guy after he is 23 it is already too late.

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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2017, 11:06:33 AM »
That was quite a while ago. From what I see now I would say if you are first preaching to a guy after he is 23 it is already too late.
Nah. I've seen plenty get into these stuff later in life.
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Re: Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 11:23:55 AM »
It's not up to you??

/Preach  :P
+1000! You can call all the publications and be removed from the lists. If that fails, it can go straight into the garbage, all wrapped in plastic.