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www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
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Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2011, 05:49:51 AM »
never had a problem, and ive lit on chanuka on the 8th night
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2011, 06:28:39 AM »
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".

lol

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2011, 10:58:58 AM »
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".

ROFL. If only it were true....

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2011, 11:04:32 AM »
+1. Door locks would be another common example.
I usually just tape a piece of cardboard over the female part of the door lock.
In a pinch I've just used the checked luggage sticker over the hole as well.
Just be sure to lock up valuables in the safe and put the DND sign on your door!
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2011, 11:06:28 AM »
Anyone ever set off the smoke alarm lighting candles? How'd you deal with that issue?
Nope, but we always light shabbos/chanukah candles on the balcony when possible.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »
For anyone wanting to follow Dan's advice and light on the balcony just make sure to sit a little by the candles (the one who lights) as you are supposed to have hana'a from the candles.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2011, 12:26:45 PM »
RE: the lock.

You can put your key card in the latch when you close the door. The tension holds it in place, and this way you can lock it when you are inside.
Although, maybe it is better to tape and then just to use the chain when you are inside.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2011, 01:32:16 PM »
For anyone wanting to follow Dan's advice and light on the balcony just make sure to sit a little by the candles (the one who lights) as you are supposed to have hana'a from the candles.
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2011, 01:36:03 PM »
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light
When you're in Hawaii there's plenty of hann'ah sitting outside on an ocean-front balcony with your candles.

And the "point" is also not to set off a fire alarm and have the whole hotel evacuated and cause a C"H-and I have heard from others who have done that.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2011, 01:37:45 PM »
When you're in Hawaii there's plenty of hann'ah sitting outside on an ocean-front balcony with your candles.

And the "point" is also not to set off a fire alarm and have the whole hotel evacuated and cause a C"H-and I have heard from others who have done that.
but do you actually sit outside though?

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2011, 01:49:26 PM »
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light

but do you actually sit outside though?
You're missing the bigger point.  Would you also light a menorah or daven loudly with tefilin on standing up on a plane?  Why do it in a confined room where there are smoke detectors and the rules clearly say that candles can't be lit in the room.

Judaism requires common sense. 
"Whole point" is hanaah...Bathroom light would be better?  ::) ::) ::)

And yes, we ate many lovely dinners on the balcony in Hawaii with our menorah burning.
And the pirsumei nisah was incredible.  Others who noticed it also wanted to light candles on their balcony as well.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2011, 02:19:40 PM »
i would not light a menora on a plane, but i also wouldnt put tefillin on my leg if my arms were in a cast. if the whole point of lighting the shabbos candles is to be nehena from it, it would not be advisable to light on the porch if you wouldnt be hanging out there. if you do hang out there, thats a different story. in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind

i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2011, 02:22:23 PM »
"Whole point" is hanaah...Bathroom light would be better?  ::) ::) ::)
absolutely! are you kidding? are you not nehena from the bathroom light on shabbos?

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2011, 02:33:28 PM »
i would not light a menora on a plane, but i also wouldnt put tefillin on my leg if my arms were in a cast. if the whole point of lighting the shabbos candles is to be nehena from it, it would not be advisable to light on the porch if you wouldnt be hanging out there. if you do hang out there, thats a different story. in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind

i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light
In Hawaii most people probably do eat their Shabbos meals on the balcony.  Is regular rooms that's the only place where there's a table and chairs for starters.  And it's just darn pleasent outside so why wouldn't you?
And our shabbos and chanukah lights never went out on the balcony. Miracle?  I doubt it.

Having a hard believing this bathroom light business...what will misnagdim think of next ;)
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2011, 02:35:10 PM »
absolutely! are you kidding? are you not nehena from the bathroom light on shabbos?
I'd also be neheneh from lots of other things.  Doesn't mean that I would be yotzei shabbos/chanukah licht with them.

I guess on a plane though you would just switch on 8 reading lights going across the 777 for menorah too?
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