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www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.reservekosher.com/listing-great,-kosher-hotel-in-piscataway,-nj-1488.html
www.godaven.com

Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2011, 02:38:27 PM »
Turning on a light for shabbos candles has got to be a huge bedi'eved shebedi'eved.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2011, 02:47:36 PM »
if its incandescent then you would be yotzeh in such a case. in many hospitals where you cant light candles they give out electric "candlesticks" to light

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2011, 02:50:26 PM »
its probably best to discuss it with a competent halachic authority

but i believe its definitely better to turn on a bathroom light than to light on the porch if you were not hanging out/eating there
Turning on a light for shabbos candles has got to be a huge bedi'eved shebedi'eved.
it probably is bedieved, but if theres no alternative, youre in a bedieved situation (if you plan on leaving the room, or dont feel comfortable having lights in the room which is against hotel poicy)

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2011, 03:16:29 PM »
its probably best to discuss it with a competent halachic authority

but i believe its definitely better to turn on a bathroom light than to light on the porch if you were not hanging out/eating thereit probably is bedieved, but if theres no alternative, youre in a bedieved situation (if you plan on leaving the room, or dont feel comfortable having lights in the room which is against hotel poicy)
Huh?  Are you hanging out/eating in the bathroom?
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2011, 03:22:07 PM »
you definitely use the bathroom over the course of shabbos, at least i do = nehena from the light

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2011, 03:24:35 PM »
"Judaism requires common sense." -Dan 

Which should include not putting yourself in a position where such issues come up. If you're not traveling for business, these factors should be taken into account while planning the trip.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2011, 03:24:51 PM »
you definitely use the bathroom over the course of shabbos, at least i do = nehena from the light
But you won't go out and chill on the balcony at night and have some hanaah.  Or better yet eat something by the shabbos licht?

If I didn't know better I'd say my leg was being pulled.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2011, 03:28:22 PM »
i disagree
Very well.
You light your licht where you urinate and defecate and I'll light them on the balcony...
And bosoxfan will just be at home.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2011, 03:29:06 PM »
But you won't go out and chill on the balcony at night and have some hanaah.  Or better yet eat something by the shabbos licht?

If I didn't know better I'd say my leg was being pulled.
like i said, it was never an option for me to light a tealight on a porch logistic wise.
and i rarely ever venture out to the porch

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2011, 03:30:12 PM »

And bosoxfan will just be at home.
:)

It mat not be as simple for me to go away as it is for others. But I do travel, and Chabad definitely makes it easier. :)

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2011, 03:32:38 PM »
You light your licht where you urinate and defecate and I'll light them on the balcony...
i dont light, i turn on light. and yes, im nehene from the light
and I'll light them on the balcony...
no problem. my only suggestion would be to run it by a competent halachic authority.
and btw, what do you do if you dont have a balcony/porch?

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2011, 03:44:48 PM »
i dont light, i turn on light. and yes, im nehene from the light no problem. my only suggestion would be to run it by a competent halachic authority.
and btw, what do you do if you dont have a balcony/porch?
I'd be utterly shocked if any chabad rabbi told me to turn on a bathroom light for shabbos licht. 

In Hong Kong and Paris we had no balcony, but we lit at Chabad where we ate in those cases.
Most hotels in resort destinations (where they may not be a shul) tend to always have balconies, but in a pinch I would light where we were planning on eating and just keep an eye on them.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2011, 03:56:43 PM »
i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light

Do you make a bracha when 'lighting' the bathroom light? Inside the bathroom or out?
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2011, 04:08:17 PM »
i believe you do make a bracha. and that would be outside the bathroom

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2011, 04:58:36 PM »
this whole thread cracks me up.... shkoyach guys for the entertainment