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www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
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Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2011, 02:09:53 AM »
no, you would not say a bracha, but you should turn on the light specfically l'kovod shabos kodesh and you should probobly say l'kovod shabos kodesh. but this heter is a very big b'dieved and it's not so poshut to do it. the mekor is from r' akiva eiger.
Hmmm, interesting...
Rabbi Akiva Eiger passed away on 1837 while the electric lightblub was invented on 1879..
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2011, 06:45:12 AM »
Hmmm, interesting...
Rabbi Akiva Eiger passed away on 1837 while the electric lightblub was invented on 1879..

But of course RAE had ruach hakodesh ;)
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #77 on: May 22, 2011, 06:21:44 PM »
So if someone relies on a kula/heter he is a posheia and the machmirim will bo koneis him? That makes no sense at all.
You are correct that it makes no sense. i guess i'm not being that clear. No there will not be a knas if she is relying on a kula. the question is in what way did they allow the kula, it was only allowed in certain instances in certain ways otherwise you may not be yotzai, i.e. is the reason we light because of "oneg" or because of kovod" and that would make the diiference of where we have to light i.e. b'mokom seuda or in the rest of the house. maybe when i have more time i'll elaborate.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #78 on: May 22, 2011, 06:28:28 PM »
there seems to be confusion with the laws of hadlakas neiros i am therfore writing this to give some basic backround information.

Hadlakas Neiros Shabbos is a mitzvah m'dirabanan which goes all the way back to the days moshe rabeinu.

There is a machlokes rishonim (we will not list all of rishonim) of the reason of why we light: the mishna berura brings in the name tosafos in shabbos that reason is because of "oneg shabbos" on the other hand you have the rambam which in one place he writes it's because of "oneg" and in another place he writes that it is because of "kavod shabbos".

Both the pri megadim and Aruch Hashulchan explain that there is no contradiction in the rambam rather the rambam holds of both reasons.

The Pri Megadim explains it as following "oneg shabbos" means that you shouldn't eat where it is dark and "kavod shabbos" is for the rest of the house in order that "shelo yikashel b'eitz v'even" in order that you shouldn't bump into things.

On the other hand The Aruch Hashulchan Explains the reasons in the exact opposite, where you eat the reason is because of "kavod" and the rest of the house is because of "oneg".
Although the gemara in shabbos says the taam of hadlakas neiros is because of shalom bayis, the levush explains that it is not a third reason rather the machlokes rishonim is from where it stems does it stem from "oneg" or does it stem from kavod".

to be continued... if anyone wants
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #79 on: May 22, 2011, 10:46:28 PM »
You are correct that it makes no sense. i guess i'm not being that clear. No there will not be a knas if she is relying on a kula. the question is in what way did they allow the kula, it was only allowed in certain instances in certain ways otherwise you may not be yotzai, i.e. is the reason we light because of nullonegnull or because of kovodnull and that would make the diiference of where we have to light i.e. b'mokom seuda or in the rest of the house. maybe when i have more time i'll elaborate.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #80 on: May 23, 2011, 12:39:49 AM »
I'm glad I practice a different religion from you...
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #81 on: May 23, 2011, 12:40:56 AM »
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #82 on: May 23, 2011, 01:03:46 AM »
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.

My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #83 on: May 23, 2011, 01:09:06 AM »
My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #84 on: May 23, 2011, 01:10:13 AM »
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.

So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #85 on: May 23, 2011, 01:12:01 AM »
So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".
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« Reply #86 on: May 23, 2011, 01:14:38 AM »
So, back to the topic, how does the AC sensor know if you're sleeping to keep on working?
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« Reply #87 on: May 23, 2011, 01:15:14 AM »
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".

Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2011, 01:19:07 AM »
Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).
well that's funny 'cause in my religion were also makil regarding knas. the term is actually "safek d'rabanan lkula" (although there is a shitah which disagrees in this instance).

Also what are you getting so jumpy about, i never said that they'll forsure get a knas all i was pointing out is that according to halacha there is a possibilty. i guess you might call it the uncfromtable truth. not sure what you have a problem with.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2011, 01:19:46 AM »
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
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