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Author Topic: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)  (Read 13000 times)

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2017, 12:23:14 PM »
In 36 hrs, only one more aircraft departed from TLV....
Oops... I was off with my math

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2017, 12:37:52 PM »
 Curious if they'll ever be able to move NY to 787. Imagine replicating capacity on 16 747 flights weekly from JFK alone.

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2017, 05:51:17 PM »
My 2 cents while everyone loves to bash LY.... (IME - in some aspects I like LY more then many other airlines)

LY will put the 787 on HKG/LAX first, yes to compete, but not putting them on NYC is not because we don't care about these clients - its the "demand". A 787 has less seats then a 747/777 and if LY flies 747/777 planes twice/trice daily to NYC and its full, it makes no sense to decrease the seats. I would say that once they announce the new hard product, all planes will be retrofitted going forward, except if they will retire that acft within the next C cycle. yes, it could take some time till they'll get all planes done etc

BA doesn't fly an A380 to NYC because they are happy with having multiple frequencies to NYC and an A380 will make them cut a flight, wheres if they deploy it to another market with one/two daily flights, they up the seats without having to add another flight.


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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2017, 11:14:17 PM »
My 2 cents while everyone loves to bash LY.... (IME - in some aspects I like LY more then many other airlines)

LY will put the 787 on HKG/LAX first, yes to compete, but not putting them on NYC is not because we don't care about these clients - its the "demand". A 787 has less seats then a 747/777 and if LY flies 747/777 planes twice/trice daily to NYC and its full, it makes no sense to decrease the seats. I would say that once they announce the new hard product, all planes will be retrofitted going forward, except if they will retire that acft within the next C cycle. yes, it could take some time till they'll get all planes done etc

BA doesn't fly an A380 to NYC because they are happy with having multiple frequencies to NYC and an A380 will make them cut a flight, wheres if they deploy it to another market with one/two daily flights, they up the seats without having to add another flight.
+1
Exactly my thoughts, except that LY is currently on my do not fly list, but that might change given enough reasons.

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2017, 12:06:22 PM »
My 2 cents while everyone loves to bash LY.... (IME - in some aspects I like LY more then many other airlines)

LY will put the 787 on HKG/LAX first, yes to compete, but not putting them on NYC is not because we don't care about these clients - its the "demand". A 787 has less seats then a 747/777 and if LY flies 747/777 planes twice/trice daily to NYC and its full, it makes no sense to decrease the seats. I would say that once they announce the new hard product, all planes will be retrofitted going forward, except if they will retire that acft within the next C cycle. yes, it could take some time till they'll get all planes done etc

BA doesn't fly an A380 to NYC because they are happy with having multiple frequencies to NYC and an A380 will make them cut a flight, wheres if they deploy it to another market with one/two daily flights, they up the seats without having to add another flight.

Does the 787 with 3-4-3 have less capacity than the 777 does with 3-3-3?

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2017, 12:12:04 PM »
Does the 787 with 3-4-3 have less capacity than the 777 does with 3-3-3?

787 with 3-4-3??

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2017, 12:17:18 PM »
787 with 3-4-3??

My mistake. Guess they are both 3-3-3. So Dreamliner prob has less space.

Perhaps LY could fly 4x daily to NYC (2 EWR/2 JFK) and make up some capacity that way, while avoiding a retrofit on the some of the older fleet and retire the 747 and save $$$ on the 747 fuel costs.

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2017, 08:03:35 AM »
looks like they're getting ready to show off

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2017, 01:56:51 PM »
There are only getting their plane in August, what will they show off? :)

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2017, 03:22:57 PM »
There are only getting their plane in August, what will they show off? :)

They'll prob dress up a 767 and convince the Israeli Travel Agents its a Dreamliner

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2017, 03:27:38 PM »
They'll prob dress up a 767 and convince the Israeli Travel Agents its a Dreamliner
LOL 👍

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2017, 06:12:56 AM »
just spoke to somebody in Elal and they're making the Dreamliner 2-2-2 in business not reverse herringbone 👎

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2017, 06:57:52 AM »
just spoke to somebody in Elal and they're making the Dreamliner 2-2-2 in business not reverse herringbone 👎
Only time will tell. But IMHO, a GDS loaded seatmap vs a phone rep, I would say DROPR.

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2017, 07:00:23 AM »
Only time will tell. But IMHO, a GDS loaded seatmap vs a phone rep, I would say DROPR.
not phone rep their sales rep in yerushalyim came trying to convince our office to convince business class customers who left in the past year to come back saying the business is going to be more like first because its 2-2-2 instead of 2-3-2  ::)

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2017, 09:52:44 AM »
not phone rep their sales rep in yerushalyim came trying to convince our office to convince business class customers who left in the past year to come back saying the business is going to be more like first because its 2-2-2 instead of 2-3-2  ::)

Yeah... still DROPR in my book.