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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #600 on: November 15, 2017, 02:22:08 AM »
ElAl: Lawsuit on Matmid Points approved as class action

Google translate from Tel Aviv Stock Exchange filling:


"Further to the immediate report of the Company dated April 15, 2015 (Ref. No. 01-079609), regarding the request to approve a claim as a class action ("the Motion"), which was filed against the Company regarding the change in the terms of the Frequent Flyer Club ("Club" The Company confirmed that on November 14, 2017, the District Court of Tel Aviv-Jaffa approved the request. The main remedies are declaratory relief, which indicates that the changes made in the club program conditions were made unlawfully; Monetary compensation for members of the group for damage caused to them as a result of changes in club conditions; Or alternatively issuing an order instructing the company to allow club members to take advantage of points accumulated in the past according to the club's conditions prior to the change. The group of claimants was generally defined as members of the club, which at the time of each of the changes made, held points and their points were devalued due to the changes.

The Company is examining the decision and its implications"

 

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #601 on: November 15, 2017, 06:45:51 AM »
ElAl: Lawsuit on Matmid Points approved as class action

Google translate from Tel Aviv Stock Exchange filling:


"Further to the immediate report of the Company dated April 15, 2015 (Ref. No. 01-079609), regarding the request to approve a claim as a class action ("the Motion"), which was filed against the Company regarding the change in the terms of the Frequent Flyer Club ("Club" The Company confirmed that on November 14, 2017, the District Court of Tel Aviv-Jaffa approved the request. The main remedies are declaratory relief, which indicates that the changes made in the club program conditions were made unlawfully; Monetary compensation for members of the group for damage caused to them as a result of changes in club conditions; Or alternatively issuing an order instructing the company to allow club members to take advantage of points accumulated in the past according to the club's conditions prior to the change. The group of claimants was generally defined as members of the club, which at the time of each of the changes made, held points and their points were devalued due to the changes.

The Company is examining the decision and its implications"
Nice. Perhaps this should be done with every airline that makes a devaluation (any that don't? ) that they should have to compensate for the decreased value of the miles earned prior to the devaluation.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #602 on: November 15, 2017, 08:36:48 AM »
When signing up for the program don't you agree to the T&C that they can change the rules without notice?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #603 on: November 15, 2017, 09:04:25 AM »
When signing up for the program don't you agree to the T&C that they can change the rules without notice?

I think this case specifically deals with the perceived lack of good faith when they devalued shortly after releasing the Fly Card a couple years back.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #604 on: December 09, 2017, 08:22:08 PM »
Have the option to fly LY 787 biz or UA 777 biz price is the same. Whats the popular vote ?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #605 on: December 09, 2017, 08:26:30 PM »
Have the option to fly LY 787 biz or UA 777 biz price is the same. Whats the popular vote ?
Flip a coin

I flew both.

United has WiFi, LY doesn't have yet.
LY have slightly better Glatt kosher food

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #606 on: December 09, 2017, 08:29:07 PM »
772 or 77W?
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #607 on: December 09, 2017, 08:29:35 PM »
772 or 77W?
All the above in the past 6 months

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #608 on: December 09, 2017, 08:30:38 PM »
Was asking @Cashman

UA 77W should be a wider seat than LY 787.

Any LY SKML pics?
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #609 on: December 09, 2017, 08:32:11 PM »

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #610 on: December 09, 2017, 09:32:37 PM »
Was asking @Cashman

UA 77W should be a wider seat than LY 787.

Any LY SKML pics?
People say LY seat is a bit wider. Guess they made the aisles narrow enough..
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #611 on: December 09, 2017, 09:33:27 PM »
Seems hard to believe given the size of a 787 and 77W.
Need to someone to measure both...
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #612 on: December 09, 2017, 09:42:17 PM »
Seems hard to believe given7 the size of a 787 and 77W.
Need to someone to measure both...

Flew both. LY 787 is a real winner, even in Y

Legroom is decent, pitch is amazing (bottom part of seat moves along) & seat itself is very comfortable fabric. Similar to UA reg old 777 but newer

United 77W seats are hard narrow and uncomfortable

If I need to choose regular economy to Israel (without upgrading to econ plus) the LY 787 would be my first choice

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #613 on: December 09, 2017, 09:43:22 PM »
Interesting.
I've heard from several readers who thought that LY 787 Y was a torture chamber.
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #614 on: December 09, 2017, 09:46:36 PM »
Interesting.
I've heard from several readers who thought that LY 787 Y was a torture chamber.
+1
Everyone complains on Y cabin