Author Topic: Kashering service for pesach in Brooklyn (Read 7131 times)

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2017, 05:38:30 PM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 05:36:36 PM

I hear but don't want to say one way or the other. I do iruy using electric kettles.

But with an under the counter sink how can you know that you got everywhere? I have an approximately 1" lip where the counter hangs over the sink, I don't feel comfortable assuming that I got everywhere (FTR last year I used an insert)

aygart · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2017, 05:41:23 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on March 30, 2017, 05:38:30 PM

But with an under the counter sink how can you know that you got everywhere? I have an approximately 1" lip where the counter hangs over the sink, I don't feel comfortable assuming that I got everywhere (FTR last year I used an insert)

Definitely don't fill to the seam. I did the best I can and put tape over the seam. You need to do that either way since you can never be sure to get all b'en from there anyhow.

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2017, 06:02:39 PM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 05:41:23 PM

Definitely don't fill to the seam. I did the best I can and put tape over the seam. You need to do that either way since you can never be sure to get all b'en from there anyhow.

Makes sense, thanks

moko · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:25:40 PM »

I just use one of these

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:59:00 PM »

Don't people use the plastic sink inserts?

Deals dealer · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:05:17 PM »

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aygart · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:05:51 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on March 30, 2017, 07:59:00 PM

Don't people use the plastic sink inserts?

People prefer when their sink drains.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:19:59 PM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 08:05:51 PM

People prefer when their sink drains.

Kashering the walls of a song via irui is not reliable imo

aygart · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:21:37 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on March 30, 2017, 08:19:59 PM

Kashering the walls of a song via irui is not reliable imo

Why not

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:29:35 PM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 08:21:37 PM

Why not

Not possible to pour into a horizontal surface under a lip. Physics.
Especially considering the fact that you need to pour into a red hot stone first.

aygart · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2017, 08:44:19 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on March 30, 2017, 08:29:35 PM

Not possible to pour into a horizontal surface under a lip. Physics.
Especially considering the fact that you need to pour into a red hot stone first.

as I mentioned earlier I cover over the part blocked by the lip with tape. The hot stone is at most a chumra and even that most likely does not apply to the sides since a davar gush would not land there and sit. By using am electric kettle and holding the switch so it is still boiling while pouring you take care of that too. There are ways to use a stone for the sides too.

moko · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2017, 10:26:43 PM »

Torch is the easiest, safest, & neatest way to kasher

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2017, 10:50:58 PM »

Quote from: moko on March 30, 2017, 10:26:43 PM

Torch is the easiest, safest, & neatest way to kasher

Not if you have Formica / wood counters attached to sink...

moko · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2017, 11:34:23 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on March 30, 2017, 10:50:58 PM

Not if you have Formica / wood counters attached to sink...

why? I have done several already like these. How hot do you get the metal when you're doing libun kal? I only attempt a surface temperature of 180° F when kashering something that requires irui. Haven't had an issue getting that temp as long as I constantly move the flame.

aygart · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2017, 11:36:54 PM »

Quote from: moko on March 30, 2017, 11:34:23 PM

why? I have done several already like these. How hot do you get the metal when you're doing libun kal? I only attempt a surface temperature of 180° F when kashering something that requires irui. Haven't had an issue getting that temp as long as I constantly move the flame.

the shiur is kash nisraf on the other side. You also need to make sure it heats evenly or the sink can warp

myi · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2017, 01:57:41 AM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 11:36:54 PM

the shiur is kash nisraf on the other side. You also need to make sure it heats evenly or the sink can warp

You think using a torch on a stainless steel sink and granite counter should be a problem?
What about the rubber gasket (lining) between the counter and the sink? Will probably melt it? _

JTZ · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2017, 02:52:12 AM »

Quote from: moko on March 30, 2017, 07:25:40 PM

I just use one of these

Those suckers work great.

moko · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2017, 06:19:58 AM »

Quote from: aygart on March 30, 2017, 11:36:54 PM

the shiur is kash nisraf on the other side. You also need to make sure it heats evenly or the sink can warp

the Mordechai, seems to say the Shiur is of kashnisraf and yad soledes are the same and the Bais hosed brings it down like that. The price megadim makes some what of a compromise and says that if your using libun kal bemakom irui, the yad soledes mitzad hasheini is sufficient but if your using libun kal bemakom hagalah then you need Kash nisraf. (All the kashrus agencies use R' Moshe's Shiur of yad soledes for libun kal) when I kasher pots and steam sinks/ tables with libun kal then I get to a temperature of about 400° F, which in my experience is definitely Kash nisraf mitzad hasheini. But for tables, sinks, etc. which only became Asur through irui, the consensus of all the poskim I asked is to be soimech on the pri megadim (like I said earlier, all the kashrus agencies use R'Moshe's Shiur of yad soledes mitzad hasheini far all libun kal with a direct flame.)

moko · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2017, 06:21:41 AM »

Quote from: myi on March 31, 2017, 01:57:41 AM

You think using a torch on a stainless steel sink and granite counter should be a problem?
What about the rubber gasket (lining) between the counter and the sink? Will probably melt it? _

not at that temperature. So far I haven't had an issue. You also need to be careful around the drain.

aygart · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:57:50 AM »

Quote from: moko on March 31, 2017, 06:19:58 AM

the Mordechai, seems to say the Shiur is of kashnisraf and yad soledes are the same and the Bais hosed brings it down like that. The price megadim makes some what of a compromise and says that if your using libun kal bemakom irui, the yad soledes mitzad hasheini is sufficient but if your using libun kal bemakom hagalah then you need Kash nisraf. (All the kashrus agencies use R' Moshe's Shiur of yad soledes for libun kal) when I kasher pots and steam sinks/ tables with libun kal then I get to a temperature of about 400° F, which in my experience is definitely Kash nisraf mitzad hasheini. But for tables, sinks, etc. which only became Asur through irui, the consensus of all the poskim I asked is to be soimech on the pri megadim (like I said earlier, all the kashrus agencies use R'Moshe's Shiur of yad soledes mitzad hasheini far all libun kal with a direct flame.)

True, but then you are not doing better than iruy anyhow.