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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2017, 03:39:38 PM »
So if someone says have sex wife my wife or I will kill you I am required to decline? What if she is really hot? You have anything like going to confession afterwards?  :)
Well as a non-jew I doubt this would apply to you, I'm not an expert in halacha no non-jews. But if it were a Jew yes they are required to die than have sex with a married woman.

We don't have any concept of confession to a rabbi as a way of atonement. Obviously a person can always to teshuva, and confessing to yourself you did wrong is a good step towards it, but the confession itself doesn't constitute as teshuva, and it would have no use to tell it to anyone else.
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 03:41:00 PM »
Yea, doesn't matter what the aveira is if someone says to do it in front of  minyan and the point of doing it is to show you don't follow the torah... I guess it's similar to idolatry doing the sin? But it's its own halacha...
That is very complicated what exactly it is included in that, but yes that is its own halacha. Homosexuality is because it is adultery.
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2017, 03:42:57 PM »
Well as a non-jew I doubt this would apply to you, I'm not an expert in halacha no non-jews. But if it were a Jew yes they are required to die than have sex with a married woman.

We don't have any concept of confession to a rabbi as a way of atonement.
Serious question. Are you interested/fascinated with other religions or just right them off as nonsense?

Speaking of atonement. Don't you add up all the +'s and -'s in your lifetime?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2017, 03:43:51 PM »
Homosexuality is because it is adultery.
Wow you know where that leads to?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2017, 03:44:50 PM »
Serious question. Are you interested/fascinated with other religions or just right them off as nonsense?

Speaking of atonement. Don't you add up all the +'s and -'s in your lifetime?
I've studied my fair share, and do have a general interest in knowing things outside of Judaism, not to be mistaken with believing other things outside Judaism.

We believe in atonement loosely translated as teshuva, we don't believe in confession as a form of atonement. And yes we have a court case of all our good deeds and sins when we go before Hashem...
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2017, 03:45:30 PM »
Serious question. Are you interested/fascinated with other religions or just right them off as nonsense?

Speaking of atonement. Don't you add up all the +'s and -'s in your lifetime?
Mitzvos and aveiros do not cancel each other out. each one gets accounted for on its own. Someone who did many sins will still be rewarded for good deeds he did and someone who did many mitzvos will still be punished for aveiros.
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2017, 03:45:48 PM »
Wow you know where that leads to?
Friday?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2017, 03:47:07 PM »
Mitzvos and aveiros do not cancel each other out. each one gets accounted for on its own. Someone who did many sins will still be rewarded for good deeds he did and someone who did many mitzvos will still be punished for aveiros.
Well that's complicated. Many opinions.

I like the story of the bookbinder that got into gan eiden. JTZ should like that one too, any links online?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2017, 03:47:44 PM »
We believe in atonement loosely translated as teshuva, we don't believe in confession as a form of atonement. And yes we have a court case of all our good deeds and sins when we go before Hashem...
Is breaking one of the three laws we are talking about a non-starter? What else is done in ones lifetime will not matter if you break one of those laws?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2017, 03:48:10 PM »
Friday?
That's a best case scenario!!!
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2017, 03:48:48 PM »
Is breaking one of the three laws we are talking about a non-starter? What else is done in ones lifetime will not matter if you break one of those laws?
Teshuva is always possible in ones lifetime. Is that what you are asking?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2017, 03:51:15 PM »
Is breaking one of the three laws we are talking about a non-starter? What else is done in ones lifetime will not matter if you break one of those laws?
no. He will be punished for this and rewarded in some manner for other things he did.
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2017, 03:51:45 PM »
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2017, 09:33:15 PM »
Well that's complicated. Many opinions.

I like the story of the bookbinder that got into gan eiden. JTZ should like that one too, any links online?

Not sure what you are talking about, but (almost) everyone gets into Gan Eden.

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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2017, 09:48:03 PM »


Not sure what you are talking about, but everyone gets into Gan Eden.
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2017, 10:09:05 PM »
Ftfy

Including those listed as ein lahem cheilek?
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2017, 10:59:08 PM »
This thread went off topic so fast...
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2017, 11:04:48 PM »
This thread went off topic so fast...
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2017, 12:07:50 AM »
This thread went off topic so fast...
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Re: I Nominate Dan
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2017, 12:10:50 AM »
I'm not who you think I am.