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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2017, 08:13:01 PM »
There was an advertisement online for those who were supposed to be in Greece to have flight from Greece (2hrs) to pesach program in Israel....

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2017, 08:15:37 PM »
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2017, 08:16:13 PM »
The strange thing is that they are complaining about a 4800 and 9000 bill that they say is indicative of the circumstances that caused them to have to cancel. While these aren't sums sneeze at, in terms of a pesach program, and considering what people are paying, this is nothing. Sticking that in won't garner then any sympathy from their customers.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2017, 08:23:53 PM »
The strange thing is that they are complaining about a 4800 and 9000 bill that they say is indicative of the circumstances that caused them to have to cancel. While these aren't sums sneeze at, in terms of a pesach program, and considering what people are paying, this is nothing. Sticking that in won't garner then any sympathy from their customers.
From a professional standpoint, they should absorb costs, even if it results in a loss, in order to maintain reputation.

The one exception to that is if whoever gives the Hashgocho feels that he can't work with, or trust the resort management, which would be a reason to walk away from the resort, but if organizers care about their own reputation, they should do everything at any cost to make sure whoever booked with them gets an alternative arrangement, as close as possible to what they booked.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2017, 08:26:14 PM »
From a professional standpoint, they should absorb costs, even if it results in a loss, in order to maintain reputation.

The one exception to that is if whoever gives the Hashgocho feels that he can't work with, or trust the resort management, which would be a reason to walk away from the resort, but if organizers care about their own reputation, they should do everything at any cost to make sure whoever booked with them gets an alternative arrangement, as close as possible to what they booked.
Their problem sounded legitimate. The food was stranded, needed to be refrigerated in order not to get ruined, and guests were arriving in next couple days.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2017, 08:26:34 PM »
From a professional standpoint, they should absorb costs, even if it results in a loss, in order to maintain reputation.

The one exception to that is if whoever gives the Hashgocho feels that he can't work with, or trust the resort management, which would be a reason to walk away from the resort, but if organizers care about their own reputation, they should do everything at any cost to make sure whoever booked with them gets an alternative arrangement, as close as possible to what they booked.
I agree with your statement, but I understood this to be an insight to the many other problems they were having.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2017, 08:31:15 PM »
I agree with your statement, but I understood this to be an insight to the many other problems they were having.
No "but" is in order here. If they made a professional mistake and hooked up with people that don't know how to deal in a businesslike way, in most cases they can deal with that for the right price. Kashrus is a different story altogether. If one cannot have minimal trust, it's a non-starter.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2017, 08:33:48 PM »
No "but" is in order here. If they made a professional mistake and hooked up with people that don't know how to deal in a businesslike way, in most cases they can deal with that for the right price. Kashrus is a different story altogether. If one cannot have minimal trust, it's a non-starter.
Sorry, my response was to Mr Smith and you, but I didn't quote him.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2017, 09:31:08 PM »
From a professional standpoint, they should absorb costs, even if it results in a loss, in order to maintain reputation.

The one exception to that is if whoever gives the Hashgocho feels that he can't work with, or trust the resort management, which would be a reason to walk away from the resort, but if organizers care about their own reputation, they should do everything at any cost to make sure whoever booked with them gets an alternative arrangement, as close as possible to what they booked.
The question isn't about Hebrew grammar. It's the Israeli mentality that you might not grasp.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2017, 10:21:58 PM »


From a professional standpoint, they should absorb costs, even if it results in a loss, in order to maintain reputation.

The one exception to that is if whoever gives the Hashgocho feels that he can't work with, or trust the resort management, which would be a reason to walk away from the resort, but if organizers care about their own reputation, they should do everything at any cost to make sure whoever booked with them gets an alternative arrangement, as close as possible to what they booked.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2017, 02:45:51 AM »
That too. There is an extreme lack of professionalism. When you have to cancel, don't try to save face with excuses, just say that due to conflicts the program will be cancelled. Or don't give any insight.
Absolutely not. If you just laid down 20k for pesach only to have it cancelled a week before with a short nondescriptive email you would be livid. Of course you would want some sort of explanation.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2017, 04:42:57 AM »
Absolutely not. If you just laid down 20k for pesach only to have it cancelled a week before with a short nondescriptive email you would be livid. Of course you would want some sort of explanation.

Agreed.  It doesn't excuse the typical Israeli arrogance of not getting an English speaker to write the English.  In this case, an English speaking PR agency.  The fact that they neglected to do that is indicative of gross incompetence, also a typical Israeli trait.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2017, 04:51:35 AM »


  The fact that they neglected to do that is indicative of gross incompetence, also a typical Israeli trait.
I think you are using the wrong word, Israelis are far from incompetent.
Your being very harsh for something that isn't true, almost like you're the arrogant one.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2017, 07:16:54 AM »
If you just laid down 20k for pesach...
Is that the going price for something like this? I assume this is for a family, how many?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2017, 07:27:37 AM »
Is that the going price for something like this? I assume this is for a family, how many?
There is no going price, you can go to a $1500 PP program or a $8000 PP program. You can have zero kids or 16.
These programs are evil IMO.