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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2017, 09:22:02 AM »
And another thread goes off topic.
All I asked was a simple straight forward question.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2017, 09:26:51 AM »
All I asked was a simple straight forward question.
Simple and straight forward doesn't exist in the Jewish vernacular
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2017, 09:27:56 AM »
All I asked was a simple straight forward question.
You, my dear sir, are obviously not Jewish. No such thing as a straightforward question in the Jewish tradition.  :)

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2017, 09:30:05 AM »
Simple and straight forward doesn't exist in the Jewish vernacular
You, my dear sir, are obviously not Jewish. No such thing as a straightforward question in the Jewish tradition.  :)
That is not my problem.  :P
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2017, 09:57:06 AM »
IMO the pesach programs are bad chinuch for the focus of gashmiyus, but to complain about not being able to give over the mesorah as well at a hotel vs home seems a bit farfetched.
This is why some are worse than others.
that depends on the program. There are some which offer programs ranging from a basic to a very nice Yom tov with activities for guests. These exotic programs are much worse than that.
In the more Yom Tov focused programs there can very well be a very nice family seder etc. For some it would be much better where they do not have the job of preparing the seudos etc. I have been there since my family had run one of the first Pesach programs in the 60s and 70s (maybe earlier). It did not look anything like these Pesach in Greece programs. When there are these exotic programs people are not spending all that money to go to Greece, Hawaii, Bermuda or wherever else to be in a hotel for 5-6 days of their stay. These programs would be much worse chinuch.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2017, 12:20:00 PM »
I heard they are selling pesach hotel insurance in case it gets cancelled :)

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2017, 12:23:10 PM »
I heard they are selling pesach hotel insurance in case it gets cancelled :)
Or..you can just put it on a AMEX 8)

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2017, 12:44:24 PM »
I heard they are selling pesach hotel insurance in case it gets cancelled :)
What does that cover? Therapy for the wife to deal with stress of making pesach in three days or finding a new place?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2017, 12:48:29 PM »
What does that cover? Therapy for the wife to deal with stress of making pesach in three days or finding a new place?
Only the black card covers that

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2017, 12:55:46 PM »
What does that cover? Therapy for the wife to deal with stress of making pesach in three days or finding a new place?
Is it easier or harder to make pesach in 3 days?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2017, 12:58:15 PM »
Is it easier or harder to make pesach in 3 days?
Harder but less stress.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2017, 01:00:28 PM »
I heard they are selling pesach hotel insurance in case it gets cancelled :)
There are definitely travel insurance programs that might cover these types of cancellations. However, IMHO, a full refund of what was paid (which is probably the maximum which would be covered, and if "tour operator" offers a full refund, then the insurance would probably pay nil) does not make purchasers of this "tour" whole, as the proximity to the start date puts them in a situation where they have to find an alternative at possibly much higher cost.

I don't think the organizers of this program should be let off the hook, though it might unfortunately bankrupt them (unless they obtained proper insurance/financial backing, which I have a hunch they might have not, due to the unprofessional way this seems to be unfolding). This might serve as a lesson for the industry, and for those that participate in such programs, to make sure that there are proper financial assurances for scenarios when things go bad.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2017, 01:02:36 PM »
This might serve as a lesson for the industry, and for those that participate in such programs, to make sure that there are proper financial assurances for scenarios when things go bad.
Should we expect a DDMS PSA?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2017, 01:14:08 PM »
Should we expect a DDMS PSA?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2017, 01:15:59 PM »
This might serve as a lesson for the industry, and for those that participate in such programs, to make sure that there are proper financial assurances for scenarios when things go bad.
You'd think that people spending tens of thousands of dollars on these programs would look into these possibilities beforehand.
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