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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #510 on: April 21, 2017, 12:13:33 PM »
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #511 on: April 21, 2017, 12:14:44 PM »
"Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara."

Are you saying that that's not legit? Does that beat your approach to lashon hara on your forums? (Though I can't exactly figure out what that approach is...)

On the FB group its more like "Loshon Horah not permitted unless it benefits the site owner"

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #512 on: April 21, 2017, 12:23:43 PM »
Didn't realize JTZ left again till I realized he was missing this conversation.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #513 on: April 21, 2017, 12:29:14 PM »

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #514 on: April 21, 2017, 03:14:49 PM »
Just going to put this out there:

I am now married with kids but back in the days when i was single i used to work as a mashgiach in hotels. I worked in one program which was not very fancy for a few years and that program was superb with no issues. Later i worked in a program which was definitely on the fancier side. This program didn't care at all about kashrus, all they cared about was how happy were the guests. Non-Jewish workers would bring pizza and donuts into the kitchen (yes you read right) and no one cared at all. When i mentioned it to the head mashgiach he was too scared of the caterer and the kitchen staff and it all continued. Kashrus was not at all a priority.

I emailed the owners of the program at the time, but i'm sure nothing was done about it and the program probably still runs the same way. So if you are in a hotel program be aware there is a good chance you had a good time while eating pure chometz.


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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #515 on: April 21, 2017, 03:20:36 PM »
Just going to put this out there:

I am now married with kids but back in the days when i was single i used to work as a mashgiach in hotels. I worked in one program which was not very fancy for a few years and that program was superb with no issues. Later i worked in a program which was definitely on the fancier side. This program didn't care at all about kashrus, all they cared about was how happy were the guests. Non-Jewish workers would bring pizza and donuts into the kitchen (yes you read right) and no one cared at all. When i mentioned it to the head mashgiach he was too scared of the caterer and the kitchen staff and it all continued. Kashrus was not all a priority.

I emailed the owners of the program at the time, but i'm sure nothing was done about it and the program probably still runs the same way. So if you are in a hotel program be aware there is a good chance you had a good time while eating pure chometz.


Real pizza,  or gebrokts?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #516 on: April 21, 2017, 03:26:29 PM »

Real pizza,  or gebrokts?
Not clear from the post but I think the main problem was that it was not CY.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #517 on: April 21, 2017, 03:29:02 PM »

Real pizza,  or gebrokts?

Yes real pizza and real donuts. B"H no gebrokts that would be horrible  ;D

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #518 on: April 21, 2017, 03:29:33 PM »
Not clear from the post but I think the main problem was that it was not CY.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #519 on: April 21, 2017, 03:36:50 PM »
At the end of the day if you want 100% guaranteed kosher you grow your own food and shect your own meat etc.     
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #520 on: April 21, 2017, 03:39:36 PM »
At the end of the day if you want 100% guaranteed kosher you grow your own food and shect your own meat etc.   
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #521 on: April 21, 2017, 03:40:22 PM »
At the end of the day if you want 100% guaranteed kosher you grow your own food and shect your own meat etc.     
Why so? Who says i would make a good shochet?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #522 on: April 21, 2017, 03:41:37 PM »
Why so? Who says i would make a good shochet?
No one but if you were learned in the halachos  you'd at least know when you weren't doing a good job. 

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #523 on: April 21, 2017, 03:43:34 PM »
At the end of the day if you want 100% guaranteed kosher you grow your own food and shect your own meat etc.     

Not the first time that equivalence was made in this thread. Chometz on Pesach is much stricter than most other issurim both in its shiur (mashehu) and in its bittul (not batel bshishim on Pesach).
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #524 on: April 21, 2017, 03:52:52 PM »
No one but if you were learned in the halachos  you'd at least know when you weren't doing a good job.  . 
And now that there are others who know it bettter and have practiced more than me I am better off relying on them. What does that have to do with Pesach Programs?
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