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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2017, 02:24:25 PM »

I've done both. Going away is better for me both b'ruchnies u'bigashmias.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2017, 02:25:28 PM »
Uh huh.
Don't ask a question if you won't take the answer. Some people actually enjoy spending some simple time at home with their families.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2017, 02:26:22 PM »
Don't ask a question if you won't take the answer. Some people actually enjoy spending some simple time at home with their families.

They come across as jealous people with no real choice.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2017, 02:29:10 PM »
Should we expect a DDMS PSA?
Dan is working for one of those programs.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2017, 02:29:24 PM »


To me they come across as jealous people with no real choice.
FTFY.  I probably would end up going if it were free, but that doesn't mean I support the idea. I'm young and looking to get things in while I can. Years down the line, with kids and grandchildren visiting, I highly doubt I'll want to pack up my life and leave for a week+


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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2017, 02:30:06 PM »
FTFY.  I probably would end up going if it were free, but that doesn't mean I support the idea. I'm young and looking to get things in while I can. Years down the line, with kids and grandchildren visiting, I highly doubt I'll want to pack up my life and leave for a week+

But what about the Ruchnios aspect?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2017, 02:31:25 PM »
But what about the Ruchnios aspect?
You've never done something in life where you questioned the ruchnios aspect of it, but we're pulled by the gashmios?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2017, 02:31:52 PM »
To those of you complaining about Pesach programs in general, would you go if it were free?

Also, the guy running the program actually lives in Belgium, so I'm not sure if he qualifies as Israeli.

My parents were offered the opportunity to go to a Pesach program for free (as a speaker) several times. They declined. It goes against both their minhagim of not "mishing" on Pesach as well as the Pesach atmosphere they aim for at home. I'm sure they are not unique.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2017, 02:32:03 PM »
They come across as jealous people with no real choice.

Or they've spoke to a Mashgiach at one of these programs...

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2017, 02:33:33 PM »


My parents were offered the opportunity to go to a Pesach program for free (as a speaker) several times. They declined. It goes against both their minhagim of not "mishing" on Pesach as well as the Pesach atmosphere they aim for at home. I'm sure they are not unique.

They are not. My parents (not speakers) are exactly the same. They firmly believe that.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2017, 02:33:55 PM »
Or they've spoke to a Mashgiach at one of these programs...


Doesn't say much about the Rabbonim who do go, does it?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2017, 02:35:16 PM »

Doesn't say much about the Rabbonim who do go, does it?
I don't look at every flyer or ad for these, but it's usually speakers that go, not rabbonim

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2017, 02:35:29 PM »
Don't ask a question if you won't take the answer. Some people actually enjoy spending some simple time at home with their families.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2017, 02:37:53 PM »
I don't look at every flyer or ad for these, but it's usually speakers that go, not rabbonim

Take a second look. There are some big  respected names out there.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2017, 02:39:04 PM »
Having done:
-Pesach at home
-Pesach at an Airbnb with food brought from home
-Pesach at a program
-Pesach at the in-laws.

I can say with confidence that there are pluses and minuses to each approach (except the latter ;)...jk) and what works for one family may not work for another. I don't think it's fair to judge either way, but it is worth switching off to give your kids a taste of different experiences, especially if you normally go away every year.
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