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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2017, 10:05:33 AM »
I don't want to share the full context, but I have heard from a well-known posek a difference between contact with gloves vs no gloves.
Tell me it was a heter to circumvent negiah issues  ;D :'(
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2017, 10:06:36 AM »
Tell me it was a heter to circumvent negiah issues  ;D :'(

Sort of, but not in a classical sense.

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2017, 10:22:07 AM »
In Israel, it is a standard that a Dr. office in a frum neighborhood has a male nurse too.
Same goes for dentists.
In BP at Ezra med when I schedule teeth cleaning, they ask if you want only a male. They have a male hygienist once a week.

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2017, 10:27:07 AM »
In Israel, it is a standard that a Dr. office in a frum neighborhood has a male nurse too.
Same goes for dentists.
In BP at Ezra med when I schedule teeth cleaning, they ask if you want only a male. They have a male hygienist once a week.
Traditionally this has been a female job. How many male phlebotomists have you ever encountered?
The tech is normally a man at this place but hes out on medical leave. How much longer do you wait for an appointment?
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2017, 10:31:57 AM »
Traditionally this has been a female job. How many male phlebotomists have you ever encountered?
The tech is normally a man at this place but hes out on medical leave. How much longer do you wait for an appointment?

When I go to donate blood in Brooklyn, all the phlebotomists are non-Jewish men (even for female donors).
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2017, 10:32:04 AM »
Traditionally this has been a female job. How many male phlebotomists have you ever encountered?
The tech is normally a man at this place but hes out on medical leave. How much longer do you wait for an appointment?

I'm not sure you're allowed to say anything is a female or male job anymore!

No longer wait time.


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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2017, 10:33:26 AM »
I'm not sure you're allowed to say anything is a female or male job anymore!

No longer wait time.
Im not sure you're allowed to cite tradition either.  ;D

And youre telling me that you dont wait longer tp get an appointment for 1 day a week vs 5 or 6 day female availability. I find that hatd to believe.
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2017, 10:37:44 AM »
Tell me it was a heter to circumvent negiah issues  ;D :'(
Look at the 2nd tosafos on daf 19 in sota where tosafos brings a yirushalmi that it is better to do negia with something in between

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2017, 07:33:07 AM »
Why is this useless thread in GD?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2017, 08:02:29 AM »
Why is this useless thread in GD?
Agreed.
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It should be in the restricted area of DDF.
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2017, 08:05:53 AM »
Agreed.
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It should be in the restricted area of DDF.
discuss it with the OP
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2017, 09:25:49 AM »
First off you probably know nothing about blood drawing. It is nearly impossible to tie a tourniquet with gloves. The gloves go on after the tourniquet is tied. Second you cannot palpate a vein properly in gloves either. So thats why first palpate then put on gloves and draw blood. Pay attention the next time you have blood drawn. You probably get stuck more than once or the needle is moved around once inside if they did the first steps with gloves.

PPE period!

I always knew there are women trolling these threads... it defiantly explains the sensitivity around here.

Please move this thread to JS


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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2017, 10:58:22 AM »
This cant wait until Friday and maybe we can smoke out JTZ in his new incarnation...

Was that your intention?

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2017, 10:59:52 AM »
Was that your intention?
Seems to have worked  ;D
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 11:03:51 AM »
Seems to have worked  ;D
If you want his input you should ask to have this thread moved to JS.

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 11:05:15 AM »
If you want his input you should ask to have this thread moved to JS.
I frankly dont give a hoot at this point.
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 11:08:57 AM »
I frankly dont give a hoot at this point.
Did you actually care at the time you originally posted?

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 11:10:13 AM »
Did you actually care at the time you originally posted?
Tremendously.
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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2017, 11:12:00 AM »
Tremendously.
Glad you got it out of your system.

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Re: חסיד שוטה
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2017, 11:12:48 AM »
Glad you got it out of your system.
Shame your sarcasm meter is broken.
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