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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2017, 09:41:35 AM »
You would imagine that if the airlines stood to cut boarding time in half, which according to the numbers  in the article quoted in the op, would save well over 700k a day, they would hire a research firm to study which method was most efficient.
They probably did, and realized that unless you are allowing people in a group to board together, there will be significant delays/complaints regardless of how you board. Save 15 minutes on physical boarding, spend 30 on dealing with parents who don't want to leave their kids, or parents who take their kids and slow the process down to the way it originally was.
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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2017, 09:44:43 AM »
They probably did, and realized that unless you are allowing people in a group to board together, there will be significant delays/complaints regardless of how you board. Save 15 minutes on physical boarding, spend 30 on dealing with parents who don't want to leave their kids, or parents who take their kids and slow the process down to the way it originally was.
Exactly, whatever the reason may be, there is obviously a substantial reason that most airlines still use the back to front method.

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2017, 09:46:30 AM »
Exactly, whatever the reason may be, there is obviously a substantial reason that most airlines still use the back to front method.
Is there also a good reason for daylight savings time?

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2017, 09:49:52 AM »
Is there also a good reason for daylight savings time?
Yes, more daylight less electricity used?

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2017, 09:56:31 AM »
Is there also a good reason for daylight savings time?
So that you can drive through 9 time zones when going through Arizona?

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2017, 10:00:50 AM »
Exactly, whatever the reason may be, there is obviously a substantial reason that most airlines still use the back to front method.
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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2017, 10:04:43 AM »
Is there also a good reason for daylight savings time?
IINM DST wasn't put in place by a business/company trying to be cost efficient.
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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2017, 10:06:29 AM »
IINM DST wasn't put in place by a business/company trying to be cost efficient. ?
Correct, and  looking for the reason it wasn't changed.

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM »
IINM DST wasn't put in place by a business/company trying to be cost efficient. ?
That was going to be my next point.
It could be the monetary incentive is exaggerated, but then that goes back to my original point.

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2017, 10:11:57 AM »
Correct, and  looking for the reason it wasn't changed.
That I do not know, my point is, that an airlines/any business or company will typically do what it takes to grow, both financially, and as far as PR (to grow financially) DST can make no sense, but is non comparable to this as this as most likely there is a plausible reason for this, while there is no need for one when it comes to DST
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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2017, 10:20:19 AM »
I don't think ripping families apart to board them separately in the name of inefficiency for airline profits will go over well these days. People will hate it and cry foul. It would be a PR disaster. Yes, there is slack in this system but I think airlines write it off as a cost of doing business.

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2017, 01:05:16 PM »
Most of the issue can be solved very simply, without any new design. Just board from back to front and/or window to aisle.

Boarding back-to-front doesn't actually reduce the time it takes to board, since the people in row 30 on a narrow-body all can't fit around the overhead at the same time, so the 4 people who can't fit, end up blocking rows 29 and 28, so those people can't sit at all.

Really the best way to board is either window-middle-aisle (also back to front), or to board every 5 rows (30, 25, 20 etc) followed by 29, 24, 19 etc) so multiple rows can board simultaneously. Of course, pesky elites gets in the way.

Still, having a wider aisle allows 2 people to board on oposite sides of the plane (A and F can board at the same time).

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2017, 04:20:56 PM »
Is there also a good reason for daylight savings time?
Fun fact, Russia apparently got rid of DST because it was messing with the amount of milk cows were producing

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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2017, 04:33:05 PM »
Fun fact, Russia apparently got rid of DST because it was messing with the amount of milk cows were producing
Couldn't convince the farmers to just schedule everything differently, or their cows can tell time?
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Re: Revolutionary Design - The Middle Plane Seat May Be The Best Soon
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2017, 05:07:33 PM »
Couldn't convince the farmers to just schedule everything differently, or their cows can tell time?
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