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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2960 on: March 31, 2014, 10:50:26 AM »
so if i come clean and say its for friend i should come out unscathed?
Not necessarily.

Likely they will cut your CL.

This card of yours that is in concern is a personal card or business card?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2961 on: March 31, 2014, 11:41:53 AM »
I dont know what you wrote on your application. Usually best is to write it is a new business, so if they ask for tax returns you could say you didn't file yet.

Best is to spend slowly, and do not do any of the possible FR triggers, and hopefully you will be fine.

well the applications(for business Gold) says $0-50k for business income and 0-5 years for time in business; so I really didn't lie there at all.  I just upgraded from gold to platinum for the 30k bonus and need to hit the 10k spend and was worried about drawing attention to the card.  So you think if I stay away from buying amex gc's , AP and rite aid, etc that I should be okay ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2962 on: April 01, 2014, 12:06:23 AM »
Not necessarily.

Likely they will cut your CL.

This card of yours that is in concern is a personal card or business card?
amex plat buiz & gold buiz. i basically wiggled out of the spending from friend but have 2 send in tax from (even though i already sent it in for my apps to get approved) she was real nice and said she will give me credit line & will try to give me enough to make the 20k spending threshold for the sign up

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2963 on: April 01, 2014, 12:22:29 AM »
i'm talking about only 12000 proof of income
I'm not sure exactly what's the minimum to get approved but I remember 14k

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2964 on: April 01, 2014, 12:24:51 AM »
As long as you have a tax return you should be fine (IME)
meaning to say it doesn't depend in the amount u filled?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2965 on: April 01, 2014, 03:32:18 PM »
I PASSED!!!!!

No change except that they put a $3K limit on my gold card. Used to be unlimited I think.

How long am I good for now before I have to behave?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2966 on: April 01, 2014, 04:06:18 PM »
I PASSED!!!!!
Congrats!
How long am I good for now before I have to behave?
I believe once you passed you're good to go.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2967 on: April 01, 2014, 04:14:46 PM »
Congrats!I believe once you passed you're good to go.
Thanks! Do people ever get FRed again?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2968 on: April 01, 2014, 04:17:53 PM »
Thanks! Do people ever get FRed again?

Yes.
As CV says, consider it a yellow light. Give gas.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2969 on: April 01, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »
Yes.
As CV says, consider it a yellow light. Give gas.
Okay :)
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2970 on: April 01, 2014, 07:46:21 PM »
Thanks! Do people ever get FRed again?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2971 on: April 23, 2014, 07:16:03 PM »
I spent over 3k on one grocery store transaction, and was not given the 3% cashback for the blue cash card, should I appeal to amex, or too much of a risk... ?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2972 on: April 23, 2014, 07:25:01 PM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2973 on: April 25, 2014, 05:48:29 PM »
Amex asked me who is my employer I said self employed then she asked me what's my company name I said I do business on ebay then she asked what's the name. I really don't have one and I don't file taxes what should I do?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2974 on: April 25, 2014, 06:05:53 PM »

I spent over 3k on one grocery store transaction, and was not given the 3% cashback for the blue cash card, should I appeal to amex, or too much of a risk... ?
Worse case you'll get F/Rd, it's not that scary.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2975 on: April 25, 2014, 06:16:35 PM »
Worse case you'll get F/Rd, it's not that scary.
Speak for yourself  ;D
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2976 on: April 25, 2014, 06:17:23 PM »

Speak for yourself  ;D
Do you have reported income?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2977 on: April 26, 2014, 09:45:14 PM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2978 on: April 26, 2014, 09:57:24 PM »

Yes
So there's nothing to be scared of IMHO. I did 30K on 6 brand new cards the first week I had them I got F/Rd and passed with flying colors!

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2979 on: April 26, 2014, 10:02:43 PM »
So there's nothing to be scared of IMHO. I did 30K on 6 brand new cards the first week I had them I got F/Rd and passed with flying colors!
Wow, B'h !!
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