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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3280 on: September 14, 2014, 06:49:23 PM »
Donno. I did. It was during the april-may amex churning saga. I opened 3 spg's at once, whilst already having one. Got points for some of them. Point is I closed three of them just now. And I plan on doing alot of big spending now on them. Should I be concerned?
LOL. Cool that you got the points for some of them.

If you closed them, how do you plan on doing "big spending" on them?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3281 on: September 14, 2014, 06:51:51 PM »
LOL. Cool that you got the points for some of them.

If you closed them, how do you plan on doing "big spending" on them?
I still have an spg card and another two as well.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3282 on: September 14, 2014, 06:53:56 PM »
Keep them open till after the big spending. So Your Debt To credit ratio is lower.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3283 on: September 14, 2014, 06:54:54 PM »
Keep them open till after the big spending. So Your Debt To credit ratio is lower.
They all had very low credit line. Totaling $4k
Won't make much difference

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3284 on: September 14, 2014, 06:56:04 PM »
I still have an spg card and another two as well.
So you had 6 SPG open at once?
Is the 4 AMEX CC rule a fake?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3285 on: September 14, 2014, 06:58:14 PM »
So you had 6 SPG open at once?
Is the 4 AMEX CC rule a fake?
I had at one point. 4 spg one blue one platinum and one mb platinum.

Now I have one spg one platinum and one blue. I had closed the mb platinum a while ago.

My question is if I do big spend on my three open cards now. Will I potentially cause an fr since I just closed 3 spg cards?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3286 on: September 14, 2014, 07:00:55 PM »
I had at one point. 4 spg one blue one platinum and one mb platinum.

Now I have one spg one platinum and one blue. I had closed the mb platinum a while ago.

My question is if I do big spend on my three open cards now. Will I potentially cause an fr since I just closed 3 spg cards?
Ohhh I thought you were saying that you had 3 more SPG.

Anyway, I don't see why big spending after closing cards is risky. I have basically only used my AMEXs for big spending and then not touched them since.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3287 on: September 14, 2014, 07:02:59 PM »
I had at one point. 4 spg one blue one platinum and one mb platinum.

Now I have one spg one platinum and one blue. I had closed the mb platinum a while ago.

My question is if I do big spend on my three open cards now. Will I potentially cause an fr since I just closed 3 spg cards?
Build up slowly... Don't go full throttle

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3288 on: September 15, 2014, 03:21:12 PM »

an account that was closed 3 years ago due to an fr, account holder is now getting targetted invitations by mail, does that mean they have better chances of getting back in?
All depends on if he had an income on his last tax return, if he did just apply for a card they'll ask you for the 4506-t and he'll pass.

Time past by, and offers sent in the mail, does not better any chances, same as no time past and no offers in the mail doesn't mean you're still doomed..

Everything depends on his financial status, F/R is no Chase A/A.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3289 on: September 17, 2014, 05:54:31 PM »
If I got a phone message from Amex FR team, does that mean that I am about to be FRed? 

Why does the wiki say to shut down the cards immediately if we can not provide the documents that they want?  What can happen?  (I read the wiki and many of the 220 pages, not all)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3290 on: September 17, 2014, 06:18:44 PM »
If I got a phone message from Amex FR team, does that mean that I am about to be FRed? 

Why does the wiki say to shut down the cards immediately if we can not provide the documents that they want?  What can happen?  (I read the wiki and many of the 220 pages, not all)
From my limited experience... so all you experts please CMIIW
1. I don't think this is a FR. It may mean that you will be FRed soon. When that happened to me, I got a FR about 2 weeks later. So you might want to exercise caution now in case it helps.
2. As long as you have income on the books you should be able to provide the docs they need. In my case it wasn't much, just a paper to fill out allowing them to see my tax returns for the last 2 years.
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3291 on: September 18, 2014, 05:45:44 PM »
about a year ago I gave someone my info so they can add me as an a/u on 2 Amex cards that person also apllied for a spg for me and reported income of 50 k Amex sent me a letter asking for proof of income... back then I shrugged it off and didn't respond - letting the application expire. My question is does this mean I was FRd and I won't be able to aplly 4 an Amex forever?
Will it help to dispute? (I didn't ask him to apply 4 the card) THANKS
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3292 on: September 18, 2014, 05:51:22 PM »
about a year ago I gave someone my info so they can add me as an a/u on 2 Amex cards that person also apllied for a spg for me and reported income of 50 k Amex sent me a letter asking for proof of income... back then I shrugged it off and didn't respond - letting the application expire. My question is does this mean I was FRd and I won't be able to aplly 4 an Amex forever?
Will it help to dispute? (I didn't ask him to apply 4 the card) THANKS
Why don't you give it a try?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3293 on: September 21, 2014, 09:00:40 AM »
account was closed around 3 years ago by AH after a FR.
Just applied and got instant approval, does it mean it's good or that's a standard process and FR is to follow shortly?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3294 on: September 21, 2014, 01:10:34 PM »
about a year ago I gave someone my info so they can add me as an a/u on 2 Amex cards that person also apllied for a spg for me and reported income of 50 k Amex sent me a letter asking for proof of income... back then I shrugged it off and didn't respond - letting the application expire. My question is does this mean I was FRd and I won't be able to aplly 4 an Amex forever?
Will it help to dispute? (I didn't ask him to apply 4 the card) THANKS
i had amex asking for tax info and applied few month later and was instantly approved it seams like that if you have limited credit history amex will ask for proof of income and few month later when you established some history amex wont need tax info anymore YMMV

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3295 on: September 21, 2014, 03:32:13 PM »
Anyone ever hear of the crab dep inside the fr dep

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3296 on: September 22, 2014, 07:13:04 PM »
Why don't you give it a try?
You mean to dispute it?
i had amex asking for tax info and applied few month later and was instantly approved it seams like that if you have limited credit history amex will ask for proof of income and few month later when you established some history amex wont need tax info anymore YMMV
Thanks! Good to hear.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3297 on: September 22, 2014, 07:15:05 PM »
You mean to dispute it? Thanks! Good to hear.
Try reapplying, I don't think you can dispute an Fr.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3298 on: September 28, 2014, 06:55:38 PM »
Amex shut down all my accounts!! Just like that, with no prior warnings!! IDK what happened, i had an FR this summer which I passed and now this...??? :- :'( :'( :'(
What should I do? I got a message on Shabbos from a FR rep but she's not in office till Tuesday!
I was due to receive my 100k MR and now it's all lost.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3299 on: September 28, 2014, 07:15:39 PM »
Amex shut down all my accounts!! Just like that, with no prior warnings!! IDK what happened, i had an FR this summer which I passed and now this...??? :- :'( :'( :'(
What should I do? I got a message on Shabbos from a FR rep but she's not in office till Tuesday!
I was due to receive my 100k MR and now it's all lost.
Did you do any MS?