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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4060 on: May 12, 2015, 08:17:56 PM »
5k but he had a 15k balance from the previous statement

Does paying back before swiping a large amount again, help not to get a fr, or regardless they look at the mounthly over all?

Also, is every card looked at by it self, or its an overall on all your cards? I just got the biz pla and biz gold, can I spend a lot on each, or the high amounts should be split between both?

Thanks

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4061 on: May 12, 2015, 08:20:13 PM »
High spending on a new card could be a trigger. Check the wiki

I understand, but I have so far spent $4,000 each on 2 cards and I'm new to Amex...

In general I heard a lot people getting  of fr's for spending a lot on flights.... I am asking if flights in general on a new card like asking for a fr?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4062 on: May 12, 2015, 09:02:28 PM »
I understand, but I have so far spent $4,000 each on 2 cards and I'm new to Amex...

In general I heard a lot people getting  of fr's for spending a lot on flights.... I am asking if flights in general on a new card like asking for a fr?
Yes-watch out. And paying back before will NOT necessarily do the trick.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4063 on: May 12, 2015, 11:54:27 PM »
Does paying back before swiping a large amount again, help not to get a fr, or regardless they look at the mounthly over all?

Also, is every card looked at by it self, or its an overall on all your cards? I just got the biz pla and biz gold, can I spend a lot on each, or the high amounts should be split between both?

Thanks
see wiki.
Preparing might be a trigger.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4064 on: May 12, 2015, 11:59:52 PM »
see wiki.
Preparing might be a trigger.
That's prepaying to go over the limit. He's talking about paying down the bill as it goes.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4065 on: May 13, 2015, 01:30:34 AM »
That's prepaying to go over the limit. He's talking about paying down the bill as it goes.
Sorry, read it too quick :/
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Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4066 on: May 14, 2015, 08:12:44 AM »
Just had an identity concern on my wife's Amex account. She had to send them copy of, ssc, license, and notary. My question is, can I still call under her name ( yes I know she should just authorize... ) or is the account now noted with all the info. And they will see a man calling for a females account ?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4067 on: May 14, 2015, 09:00:49 AM »
Just had an identity concern on my wife's Amex account. She had to send them copy of, ssc, license, and notary. My question is, can I still call under her name ( yes I know she should just authorize... ) or is the account now noted with all the info. And they will see s mane calling for a females account ?
Can't imagine it makes a difference. If you're doing it until now it's prob fine.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4068 on: May 15, 2015, 01:41:08 AM »
Just got f/r'ed

Here's the story. On the application I wrote one year so when they called me up I told them I have not yet filed taxes this year. I was put on  hold and when she came back she said that instead they will be requiring 2 bank statements and a tax extention form.

 I called the rep back and told her that after speaking with my biz advisors I realized that I may not end up filing taxes at all, so what should I do about the extension if there is none. She then made it seem to me like the important thing is the bank statements and that it does not need to be specifically the last two months.

My question is as follows I have two checking accounts one a 360 account that was dedicated to rc/serve with five k in and out every month my second account has a revolving balance of less than that but is more diverse which account should I use (I would assume the answer is number two)

My second question is that I would rather not risk my account being closed as opposed to Me closing it myself is there a chance that I can submit the statements and tell the rep this is all I have for now, please try and make this work... If it won't work please call me back and I'll see if I can get you the tax extention... In which case obviously I would preemptively shut down my account.

Any help would be appreciated thanks for all your help in the past.
update: I passed my f/r.

long story short, due to two combined factors 1)only claimed on application that it was my first year in business and told them over the phone that I will not even be filing this year (at first they wanted to see my extention)
2)they asked me for my personal income  to which I told them under 10k and that I never filed taxes.

I believe this to be the reason that all I had to send in was bank statements and even though they were fairly unsubstantial I passed my f/r, although they did put a cl on the card

Is it true that you come out of an  f/r stronger than before?  How careful do I have to be moving forward?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4069 on: May 15, 2015, 03:29:00 AM »
update: I passed my f/r.

long story short, due to two combined factors 1)only claimed on application that it was my first year in business and told them over the phone that I will not even be filing this year (at first they wanted to see my extention)
2)they asked me for my personal income  to which I told them under 10k and that I never filed taxes.

I believe this to be the reason that all I had to send in was bank statements and even though they were fairly unsubstantial I passed my f/r, although they did put a cl on the card

Is it true that you come out of an  f/r stronger than before?  How careful do I have to be moving forward?
Nice! They didn't all whose income you wrote on the app?
Also dunno about your question but I know people who got fr'd more than once

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4070 on: May 15, 2015, 08:33:24 AM »
update: I passed my f/r.

long story short, due to two combined factors 1)only claimed on application that it was my first year in business and told them over the phone that I will not even be filing this year (at first they wanted to see my extention)
2)they asked me for my personal income  to which I told them under 10k and that I never filed taxes.

I believe this to be the reason that all I had to send in was bank statements and even though they were fairly unsubstantial I passed my f/r, although they did put a cl on the card

Is it true that you come out of an  f/r stronger than before?  How careful do I have to be moving forward?

MT! And still, it wonders me that they have no issue with an alleged business that isnt filing and only has a 10k personal income to back that up. But that doesn't need to be your concern.  :)
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4071 on: May 15, 2015, 09:49:43 AM »
Nice! They didn't all whose income you wrote on the app?
Also dunno about your question but I know people who got fr'd more than once
They asked me who's income I wrote on the app and when I answered household, they wanted to know my personal income...

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4072 on: May 19, 2015, 12:00:30 AM »
1 - Have we got an approx. amount of authorized users on a card that can trigger a F/R, or at least, "No one under 10 cards on one account has been F/R due to it, etc"
2 - A little off topic, but when adding Authorized users to an Amex, do you need a real DOB (and it is fraud if you just give any name/DOB just to get a card)?


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4073 on: May 19, 2015, 12:08:17 AM »
1 - Have we got an approx. amount of authorized users on a card that can trigger a F/R, or at least, "No one under 10 cards on one account has been F/R due to it, etc"
2 - A little off topic, but when adding Authorized users to an Amex, do you need a real DOB (and it is fraud if you just give any name/DOB just to get a card)?
1-no known number
2-it is fraud to make up

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4074 on: May 20, 2015, 02:31:07 AM »
F/r is going to trigger once u hit a spending limit of how much and in how long of a time frame !? As well as having a bussiness cards multiple of 10 is that anything to be worried abt !?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4075 on: May 20, 2015, 02:34:26 AM »
F/r is going to trigger once u hit a spending limit of how much and in how long of a time frame !? As well as having a bussiness cards multiple of 10 is that anything to be worried abt !?
There is no specific number that ppl know. try to keep it steady and spread out and hope for the best.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4076 on: May 20, 2015, 02:35:37 AM »
F/r is going to trigger once u hit a spending limit of how much and in how long of a time frame !? As well as having a bussiness cards multiple of 10 is that anything to be worried abt !?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4077 on: May 20, 2015, 02:37:14 AM »
having a bussiness cards multiple of 10

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4078 on: May 20, 2015, 02:39:16 AM »
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+1  doesn't really change the answer regardless.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #4079 on: May 20, 2015, 02:55:11 AM »
As I have a few cards open as I need different due dates in the month so have more then one of such card , like mend... Said makes no diff if by one u have to be carefull then fisure by many
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