Court Orders Baby's Death

[yelped]

they can use and twist that logic in any manner they wish once they decide what "dying with dignity" means.

Muslim honor killings?

[Sport]

I'm differentiating between deciding that it will be better to let the child die with dignity, and not allowing parents to "torture" their child. While I think neither is the case, I can understand how some might agree with the latter, but will never understand anyone who think the first.

Your distinction is exactly what they want people to believe and is what makes this scarer.
 They wouldn't be able to get away with saying his life is meaningless but they can hide behind the backwards argument that they are objective and taking the more humane path, saving him from his parents emotionally charged decision.
For all those saying this would never happen in America, it will. They'll use the same (or similar) tactical argument.

[as2]

Your distinction is exactly what they want people to believe and is what makes this scarer.
 They wouldn't be able to get away with saying his life is meaningless but they can hide behind the backwards argument that they are objective and taking the more humane path, saving him from his parents emotionally charged decision.
For all those saying this would never happen in America, it will. They'll use the same (or similar) tactical argument.

Regardless of the reasoning, I think the case is disturbing. I was just giving my 2¢ but it doesn't change the fact that this child could die at their command. I don't remember all the details, but we had a case here in America, Terri Schaivo.

[Sport]

Regardless of the reasoning, I think the case is disturbing. I was just giving my 2¢ but it doesn't change the fact that this child could die at their command. I don't remember all the details, but we had a case here in America, Terri Schaivo.

I know, I was agreeing with the distinction you made and pointing out that that's exactly the argument they want to debate, and not the quality of life argument.

[yochiek93]

+1. The doctor has a duty to the patient, not to the parents. The issue is the legal weight given to that duty, as opposed to parents' duties and rights.

Anyway, my point from that article was not the UK's specialist - we knew they felt that way, otherwise there would be no case in the first place. My point was that the US doctor - the one that was offering the Gards the treatment - sounded very wishy washy in the quotes from testimony.

Actually in this scenario since it's a minor who cannot legally make their own decisions the doctors have a duty to the parents

[yochiek93]

Regardless of the reasoning, I think the case is disturbing. I was just giving my 2¢ but it doesn't change the fact that this child could die at their command. I don't remember all the details, but we had a case here in America, Terri Schaivo.

That was a different scenario, it was the husband who was the health care proxy.
So legally it was his choice.....

[menasheh]

This case is incredibly disturbing...

A courtroom full of "educated" people prescribed a baby's death and nobody's losing sleep over it?!?!

[skyguy918]

Actually in this scenario since it's a minor who cannot legally make their own decisions the doctors have a duty to the parents

Except that's not how it works in the UK, which is the problem.

[aygart]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/24/charlie-gard-mothers-full-statement-sorry-couldnt-save/

[Something Fishy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40752120

[good sam]

Heartbreaking

[as2]

Agreed. It was heartbreaking before all the legalities, that just runner salt in the wounds.

[aygart]

RIP. THe courts are such achzorim that they couldn't even allow the parents the comfort of him dying at home. Coming sson to a liberal state near you.

[Dan]

Sick

[Baruch]

This is why, even with Trump being a nutcase, I am still happy (sometimes) that he won.

And for one reason. Neil Gorsuch. Thank G-d.

Anthony Kennedy, please retire soon.

[aro123]

And RBG should  follow this courts ruling, now that  she can no longer be a productive  member of society

[username]

👆Not nice. At least in this thread.

[Yehuda57]

And RBG should  follow this courts ruling, now that  she can no longer be a productive  member of society

Wishing death upon someone in a thread about the sanctity of life seems hypocritical, but you do you.

[Boruch999]

This

And RBG should  follow this courts ruling, now that  she can no longer be a productive  member of society

is just a crude way of expressing this:

Keeping someone alive is now called abuse?
What about for the elderly?

[Boruch999]

Very eloquently put.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shouldnt-parents-know-best/